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Here's their promise to never use forced labour for their cocoa.

There's also the Tony's open chain: a pledge by many companies (not just eu, also us) to use only ethically sourced cocoa. The companies are: here

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[โ€“] TTH4P@lemm.ee 27 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Also it's pretty good. I didn't know I liked milk chocolate, because Hershey's is disgusting. Tony's is objectively a better tasting product.

[โ€“] Decq@lemmy.world 37 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Well there's your problem, in the Netherlands (and other places) Hershey milk 'chocolate' isn't legally chocolate. It needs at least 35% cacao to be called chocolate. It would be called 'Cacao fantasy' here instead. So no wonder you think it's shit chocolate, cause it isn't chocolate to begin with

[โ€“] TTH4P@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

For sure, that's why it tastes like vomit.

[โ€“] Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Hershey's chocolate has butyric acid, which is also found in vomit. The acid is allegedly a byproduct, but it helps stabilize the chocolate and prevent it from melting. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/hersheys-chocolate-tastes-like-vomit_l_60479e5fc5b6af8f98bec0cd

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[โ€“] half_fiction@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No, it's because there's some biproduct to how they process the chocolate that I think tastes bad to people who didn't grow up eating it. As an American, I think I can taste the slightly sour note in Hershey's that I don't taste in other chocolates but my brain has had enough exposure to it that it doesn't taste vomit-y so I don't mind it (lol.) Don't get me wrong, it's not good quality by any means but to me it's like the difference getting a burger from McDonald's vs at a nice restaurant. Not often, but there's time and place where getting McDonald's fucking hits.

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[โ€“] M137@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

That's like saying "I didn't know I liked olives because faeces from people who have eaten olives is disgusting". Hershey's is widely hated for a reason, it shouldn't be legal to sell.

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[โ€“] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I didn't know I liked milk chocolate, because Hershey's is disgusting.

Hershey's is someone LARPing chocolate making. It's pure disgusting. How people have been eating it for so long is beyond me.

[โ€“] TTH4P@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Some of us grew up thinking that was chocolate. Have pity, rather than disdain.

[โ€“] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The lies your government have fed you since you were a child are hard to forget. But join us, in the real chocolate world, my child, and we will embrace you with open arms.

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[โ€“] MTK@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Fucking woke BS, ChIlD sLaVeRy. Let the childern work, we need Chocolate!

/s

[โ€“] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

the children YEARN for the nestle mines, we NEED that chocolate

[โ€“] neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

mines

Everyone knows chocolate is hunted! /s

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[โ€“] Kualdir@feddit.nl 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

FYI: Check if whatever brand you like also works with Tony's for their supply chain. For example Jumbo (NL supermarket) sources their chocolate from Tony's and there's quite a lot more partners.

[โ€“] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] Kualdir@feddit.nl 6 points 5 months ago

Great find! I wasn't able to find it before. Time to check it out

[โ€“] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 months ago

Thanks for the tip!

[โ€“] durfenstein@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Aside from the activism stuff, Tonys just tastes how good chocolate should taste.

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[โ€“] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (11 children)

As an American: you guys eat American chocolate?

[โ€“] neo2478@sh.itjust.works 19 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I mean there is also a big difference between American brands in the US and the EU. Last time I went to the US, I brought back snickers, Twix, and KitKats. Then I bought the EU alternative and set up a double blinded taste test with my friends.

Without fail we all immediately were able to tell them apart. The American version was chalky and tasted like pure sugar. The EU version, albeit also nowhere near Tony quality and still very sweet, was much higher quality and you could taste the individual components of the candy. It was not just a sweet punch in the face.

[โ€“] cocolowlander@feddit.nl 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I worked in a Nabisco factory a decade ago in the US making Oreo.

They've consistently looked for cost cutting measures to reduce the amount of cocoa powder (expensive input) put into the product. What happened when I was there was they would look for a new vendor that would offer stronger cocoa flavor profile per kg and then use that as a justification to cut the amount of cocoa powder in the product. To mask it they would amp up the sweetness.

In a blind test, a normal people can't tell the difference year to year, but if you compare it to what it was ten years ago, there would be a noticeable difference.

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[โ€“] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not american or european, but yeah. They don't ship here (nor any other ethical alternatives) so sadly i'm stuck with stuff like pepsico and nestle. I try to abstain as much as possible.

You guys eat american chocolate

Why not? It tastes fine. My main problem is how they use forced labor to source the cocoa; which in this case chocolonely is the exception. Even european companies (like nestle) still suffer the same issues.

Though i'm biased since as i said, we mainly only have pepsico and nestle so i don't know how "proper" chocolate in your guys's opinion tastes.

[โ€“] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

We do have pretty decent chocolate here, but it's not any of the major brands. I grew up eating Hershey, which is pretty bad (but it kind of has a special place in my heart - nostalgia and all that).

[โ€“] Aux@feddit.uk 4 points 5 months ago
[โ€“] Akasazh@feddit.nl 3 points 5 months ago

That rancid stuff? No ty

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[โ€“] h6pw5@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Everyone should watch John Oliverโ€™s Chocolate episode (as much as is preferred not to link YouTube). Tonyโ€™s is discussed, and it seems more ethical than most. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwHMDjc7qJ8

Edit: updated comment to better reflect coverage.

[โ€“] MissingInteger@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That short segment about Tony seems relatively positve.

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[โ€“] kora@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I love Tony's as much as the next guy. However, be aware that a test conducted in 2022 found high levels of lead in Chocolonely Dark Chocolate variant.

Consistent, long-term exposure to even small amounts of heavy metals can lead to a variety of health problems. The danger is greatest for pregnant people andย young children because the metals canย cause developmental problems, affect brain development, and lead to lower IQ, says Tunde Akinleye, the CR food safety researcher who led this testing project.

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[โ€“] TheImpressiveX@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago

I discovered Tony's Chocoloney a few months ago, and I really love it. I can get it at my local supermarket as well. Great to see them on here!

[โ€“] Wooki@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

I go out of ny way to buy this chocolate (outside EU) as its simply divine compared to American chocolate.

[โ€“] bartvbl@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (6 children)

For Norway: you can buy these at Normal. Much cheaper than getting them shipped.

[โ€“] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago

what an abnormal store name lol

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[โ€“] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 months ago (5 children)
[โ€“] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

big nestle, they got angered by that "without child slavery" part ๐Ÿ˜ค

[โ€“] Vinny_93@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago

I didn't downvote but I will add a note to Tony's.

First of all: I applaud their mission and every company in the world should be working without slavery of any kind.

Because Tony's is so open about their sourcing and making a big deal about being 100% slave free, they are an easy target for organizations checking their claims. There have been a couple of moments in time where Tony's has been challenged, the most recent one being 2021, where they have been removed from the list of ethical chocolate companies by the American company Slave Free Chocolate, because they collaborated with Barry Callebaut.

Now, to expand on 'collaboration', here: Tony's buys their cocoa very transparently, from farmers who do not employ children, paid or otherwise. Then, to process this cocoa they need an efficient factory and they use one in Antwerp, Belgium. This factory also processes the cocoa from Barry Callebaut.

Tony's doesn't really care, of course, about being taken off the list by this company. They know they are ethical enough by their own measure, which is still leagues ahead of most.

Source in Dutch.

The point here being that one might read one headline or the other, refuse to go into any depth and form their opinion. Now any time they read Tony's all they remember is 'they are not as holy as they make themselves out to be'. Hence they'll just downvote this any time they glance over it.

Or it might be Big Chocolate, idk.

[โ€“] brotundspiele@feddit.org 4 points 5 months ago

The chocolate just doesn't taste the same if it's not seasoned with the tears of child-slaves. /s

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[โ€“] haroldfinch@feddit.nl 5 points 5 months ago

I'd love to have some Tony's Chocolonely. Unfortunately, I have such a severe gluten intolerance that their cross contaminated factory produces Russian Roulette bars for me.

Even though most of their bars don't actually contain gluten based ingredients, the fact they use one big production facility that sprinkles gluten all over the place for shits and giggles ensures I will never be able to safely consume their products.

I'll stick to G'woon chocolate. They at least produce their non-glutened bars in a safe environment.

(And yes I've tried Tony's bars in the past, always resulting in issues because of it.)

[โ€“] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I hate that my choices are Expensive, Evil, or Doesn't Taste Good when it comes to so many products.

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[โ€“] SabinStargem@lemmings.world 4 points 5 months ago

Contrary to conservative beliefs, food made of child slavery doesn't taste more delicious.

/j...?

...honestly, I wouldn't put it past rich bastards like Musk getting off on their food, due to it being seasoned with suffering.

[โ€“] Mvlad88@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Tony's is great and tastes awesome, but the real question here is, are we european really eating that much non-EU sweets? Maybe the occasional Snickers or Mars, but all the stuff that I tasted and was from across the pond was either brutally sweet or had no flavor at all.

[โ€“] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago

Marabou is Swedish but is also fully owned by Mondelez which is American. Mars, Sneakers, Bounty etcetera American.

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[โ€“] SatanClaus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago

As an American this is also what I buy. Good stuff. Support them ๐Ÿ’ช

[โ€“] petrescatraian@libranet.de 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

@fxomt found it in my local supermarket too

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