I think we need to drop the premise that the Founders were geniuses who's dusty ass opinions count for jack shit.
The secret is that they were just regular politicians from a long time ago.
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What exactly is your point in regards to this article?
It's promoting the idea that the opinions of politicians from the 1700s carry any more weight than the opinions of doctors from the 1700s.
Adherence to "what the founding fathers wanted" is a toxic meme. They were historical figures, that's all.
The Supreme Court uses this meme as a totem to excuse motivated reasoning in their decisions and people are simply conditioned to accept the words of 300 year old politicians over the reality of the present.
We can understand the danger of Trump without quoting from old slave owners, pretending that they carry special wisdom.
it's especially ironic, considering that the founding fathers themselves did not want this. they created a "living document" because they were smart enough to realize that times change and laws should change with it.
unfortunately, their biggest fans today have completely ignored that part.
The Electoral College was put in place, at least in part, exactly to stop the public at large from electing someone like Trump.
The purpose of the Electoral College was to guarantee that the president was elected by the states and not the people. So you are half right, the electoral college can interfere if it’s not what the states want. While there are some states that want to always go with the popular vote not all are on board.
Founders were geniuses [whose] dusty ass opinions count
No, but they were educated, and may have expected that to persist. #NoChildLeftBehind was a great concept executed terribly; and it made things worse. So the founding fathers had that leg up.
Some concepts were sound, and only missed the loophole where corruption took hold in all three branches at the same time. That's a pretty honest assumption that it wouldn't.
I hate this, lets compare historical figures like they have the knowledge we have now. The US constitution was a massive evolution but also a transformation in how a government would operate in particular in regards to democracy and power coming from the governed. just a written codified document behind a government was a pretty big deal much less the separation of powers and documenting of rights.
Delegate John Dickinson asked a rhetorical question: “Will a virtuous and sensible people chuse villains or fools for their officers?”
I think the problem is as a group we are neither virtuous or sensible.
We would be very sensible and make good decisions if the media was fair and the schools would be great. Unfortunately we dont live in that society.
You have more faith than me
no amount of constitution is going to help when his party is complicit and is the majority in congress and the courts.
You need a couple of amendments to that constitution then.
Here's the thing, you don't need to amend the constitution if you don't have anyone enforcing it.
how? the problem is with the nutters controlling all the levers. an amendment would not be enough. You would at a minimum need another area of power and how do you keep that from being controled by nutters.
That's NOT true! You can COUNT ON ME, a REPUBLICAN, to ALWAYS Defend the Constitution!* *After an Elementary School Shooting!
Time to put that second amendment to use.
If it's not used, it will be removed