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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

How to UBI without calling it UBI, while also making it worse than UBI for no reason.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

This post is in response to Mike Johnson signaling cuts to Medicaid. Just for context.

Oof that makes it even worse

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Another example of conservatives' disdain for the poor causing them to horseshoe around into Keynesian economics.

[–] LostWon@lemmy.ca 12 points 6 months ago

Yes it is, but unfortunately there is a real risk if the crazy keeps multiplying throughout Trump's administration they will just end up using prison labour rather than having dignified modes of assistance and decent-paying jobs.

[–] straightjorkin@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I saw one the other day excited about laying people off from the forest service, and saying that we should just hire homeless people to take care of parks.

Just so fucking stupid.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Just replace one homeless with another. Genius

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

The core assumption of this argument is that individuals owe their lives to the State. That people are only justified in existing as long as they contribute to the group.

It's a totalitarian vision that would embarrass Stalin. But modern conservatives take it as gospel.

I'm not pointing this out to say reactionaries are hypocrites. I don't think they're lying when they say they love freedom. For them freedom means freedom for the powerful to make society better. For the less than deserving, the best way to contribute to society is to serve the deserving.

[–] School_Lunch@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I've heard this so many times when talking to my conservative relatives. Why do they care so much about what other people do? If they want to sit and do nothing, how is that a bad thing? Why do they think they have the authority to dictate how other people live? It might even be a good thing if more people sat and did nothing. There are too many people out there doing damage to the world that it would be an improvement if they stopped. They put so much emphasis on being productive, which is good, but I don't care if you're not productive as long as you're not destructive.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'll say I somewhat agree but I would also emphasize; life like this comes with many sacrifices which results in loss of agency.

[–] CMLVI@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

There are (were) agencies already doing this; I work in one. However, we're funded through Dept of Education, and you know where admin sits on that issue.

OK, sure, maybe employment services shouldn't be under DoE. Maybe DHHR. Oh, they want to gut that too? It's almost like they're doing shit just to say they are doing shit. Or, they're going to cut everything to "rebuild" it how they see fit. Don't have to work within legal frameworks if those frameworks are burned completely to the ground...

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is literally the core idea of the green new deal which is somehow now a conservative boogie man.

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Inverse situation of ACA. Initially a republican idea, then passed during Obama admin and now it’s “woke” and being targeted by Rs again.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 months ago

Fash would rather pay people to sit in a room all day than provide for basic human needs.