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GOP presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy said Friday he would deport the children of undocumented immigrants with their families, despite them already being U.S. citizens.

“There are legally contested questions under the 14th Amendment of whether the child of an illegal immigrant is indeed a child who enjoys birthright citizenship or not,” Ramaswamy said after a town hall in Iowa.

Ramaswamy is not the only GOP candidate to question U.S. citizenship rules. Former President Trump announced in late May that on his first day back in office, he would seek to end birthright citizenship by way of an executive order.

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[–] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 107 points 2 years ago (5 children)

This guy will literally say anything if he thinks it will get him what he wants.

[–] Canopyflyer@lemmy.world 59 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He has a couple of very specific jobs for the Republicans.

  1. He's the token minority so that the GOP can point and say; "SEE WE'RE NOT RACIST, WE HAVE THIS GUY IN THE PRIMARY."

  2. He's moving the crazy line further out. He's saying more and more outlandish things, so that the other insane assholes that are running, seem positively nice in comparison. Even though, compared to actual sentiment of the public at large, they are beyond deranged.

I am sure this asshole is well paid by the GOP.

[–] jtmetcalfe@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 years ago

I think he and his advisors are severely underestimating the entrenched racism of their base, especially the far right wing that he is trying to court. Oh yeah, and he’s also a Harvard and Yale educated lawyer who attended school on scholarship from a Soros. And he’s Hindu, and a vegetarian.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

Duh, he's a Republican.

[–] kitonthenet@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

Saying bullshit has a funny way of becoming meaning bullshit, just look at trump

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

I’m sure he’s under GOP contract to say these things

[–] kitonthenet@kbin.social 52 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You do realize that birthright citizenship is almost entirely nonexistent in Europe, Asia, Africa, and Austrailia, right?

at no point in the history of america has "but yurop does it" been a suitable justification for a policy. We are specifically trying to be better than europe

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Failing spectacularly I might add.

[–] Soulg@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

He did say trying, not succeeding.

[–] JdW@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

We are specifically trying to be better than europe

were perhaps. If we're being generous. But "are" has not applied in decades, and most definitely not this millenium.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 38 points 2 years ago

This is the same Republican party that vehemently defends the 2nd Amendment whose definition is much more widely "contested", despite having much more real and dire consequences than the 14th.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 31 points 2 years ago

He's such a little shi*. The Martin Shkreli of politicians. Though the GOP has a number of those.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 29 points 2 years ago

You know what else is contested? The second gd amendment.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 27 points 2 years ago

"Vote for me! I'm an asshole too!"

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

Not that I don't think he actually believes in this bullshit but he's just saying whatever he can to get that easy money from the party of White Supremacy.

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Imagine if the brown man promising to deport US citizens was a Democrat, how Republicans would react.

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[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Ah rhymes with fake is a real piece of shit

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

That dude is a presidential candidate like the 2008 Detroit Lions we’re Superbowl contenders.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 2 years ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


GOP presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy said Friday he would deport the children of undocumented immigrants with their families, despite them already being U.S. citizens.

“There are legally contested questions under the 14th Amendment of whether the child of an illegal immigrant is indeed a child who enjoys birthright citizenship or not,” Ramaswamy said after a town hall in Iowa.

Former President Trump announced in late May that on his first day back in office, he would seek to end birthright citizenship by way of an executive order.

Despite the GOP candidates’ plans, a majority of Americans said the U.S. should continue to provide birthright citizenship in a poll following Trump’s announcement.

In his immigration plan, DeSantis’s campaign said citizenship rules as practiced now in the U.S. are “inconsistent with the original understanding of 14th Amendment.”

“We will take action to end the idea that the children of illegal aliens are entitled to birthright citizenship if they are born in the United States,” the plan, which is titled “No Excuses,” reads.


The original article contains 212 words, the summary contains 170 words. Saved 20%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Maybe if immigrants started murdering rooms full of children they would defend the 14th amendment like they defend the second?