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[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In the end all that matters is does Nigeria want to fight this war or not. They're the ones that'll be paying for it in blood and treasure. France is a sidenote. They're not going to die over this.

[–] GCostanzaStepOnMe@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

France about to do a colonialism again

[–] GenEcon@lemm.ee 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

So far a leader of a military group, which has just overthrown a democratic elected leader, which cooperates with the Wagner group to secure their might, claims that France is doing that.

I would put a big question mark behind that claim and wait for reliable sources.

[–] balls_expert@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Democratically elected my ass. The popular support for the coup, however misguided it is, seems overwhelming among the locals

We the french have no right to force a democracy upon them. Doesn't matter how stupid we think this is

[–] bouh@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Russian propaganda did a good job there. I lough if they think Russia will solve their problems.

[–] Pili@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago

They haven't overthrown any democratic elected leader, the only person they've overthrown was Bazoum.

[–] Kbin_space_program@kbin.social 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

France about to depose a military coup? Recall this is the junta that deposed Niger's president that is claiming France is going to invade.

[–] GCostanzaStepOnMe@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Honestly I wouldn't be able to tell which side is the good one here.

[–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If the end goal of either side isnt the redistribution of the countries wealth, increasing health, education and housing programs then they can both get fucked

[–] Kbin_space_program@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, fully admit all I really know is that the deposed president was democratically elected, that the military junta was not, that Russia is suspected of BS, and that the migrant issue is potentially involved.

The first one is the important one to me, that its a Ecowas sanctioned military dictatorship making the claim that Ecowas is going to invade with France's help.

[–] Dreyns@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The thing is europe and the west in general is bleeding africa of it's ressources and even though it topples a democraticly elected president the goal they claim is to free themselves of postcolonialism wich could be very good for africa. But yeah always hard to know woch side tells the truth...

[–] anewbeginning@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Siding with the democratically elected leader is generally a good choice.

[–] balls_expert@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago

Not so simple when everyone in the country instantly started chanting that the coup liberated them from french influence and protesting at our embassies

Awaiting proper stats but just asking people in the streets what they think about it all tells a different story about the previous regime

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

As a French I don't know either, especially looking at our history

[–] sederx@programming.dev -1 points 2 years ago

Because there's never one?

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club -5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

France used to control Niger the same way that Russia controlled Ukraine. Now that Niger and Ukraine are independent countries, I'm sure the response to both will be consistent.