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[–] sorebuttfromsitting@sopuli.xyz 63 points 2 years ago (1 children)

https://www.thejimquisition.com/post/starfield-empty-spaces-review

that's the actual review, don't bother with this shitty forbes article

[–] amio@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Shitty Forbes blog post, even.

[–] sorebuttfromsitting@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

i need to get dressed up. no one ever warned me! actually it's fine.

[–] deft@ttrpg.network 27 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This 100% was said about Skyrim. Bethesda just makes weak RPGs with no stakes or personality.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I don't think it's fair to call Bethesda games RPGs. They're more like environmental looter shooters. And if you take them kind of easy breezy not serious you can have fun. But you're not going to get real roleplay.

You'll find some cool stories, but not roleplay

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

They're action rpgs

[–] Ricaz@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm not sure if everyone's opinion just changed over night, but saying anything bad about Skyrim or Bethesda games used to get you downvoted to hell in casual video game communities, and this is even a Bethesda community.

People praise Skyrim like it's the greatest game ever, like it's the only game they ever played. What happened?

[–] Shalakushka@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

It's mostly people who grew up playing Skyrim who are super positive about it in my experience.

[–] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wish skyrim was as good as people claim it is.
I liked fallout 3 a lot, and i never looked into fallout 4 before it launched. Like i haven't seen anything about the game, except for the launch trailer before i bought it because i happened to be bored. The game was so bad looking and odd that i closed the game to make sure i didn't download the wrong game, or like some scam like: Foulout 4. I did that twice. The game was unplayable and ass ugly. I know they patched a lot of things but the game is just not good, and giving it a 10/10 is insulting to every other video game.

I think Bethesda has enough ass kissing fans who praise their games. Like i wasn't hopeful for starfield at all, but i still had that thing in the bqck of my brain that thought: but what if it's really good. But no, it's optimized badly it looks like modded skyrim, nothing seem to have consequences, the freedom to do whatever you want, absolutely lifeless npc's. They had npc's in all their games but they never got better, but it's fine, best game ever 10/10 can't wait for the next one.

[–] Ricaz@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The gameplay in Fallout 4 was better than 3 and NV imo. But Fallout 3 still had the Fallout freedom and charm, which I feel was lost in the others. The gameplay just sucked ass, and even the NPCs from 1998 provided better immersion.

I think 90% of Fallout fans never played the first two.

Instead of hiring 30+ studios to do their work, they should've hired one good studio and ditched their ancient poop engine 15 years ago.

[–] BedbugCutlefish@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah. I love fallout 1 and 2, and NV is... fine. But at this point, I don't think I'm a 'fallout fan', since I've just had zero interest in the series after hating 3 and 4.

And same thing with elder scrolls, and Morrowind. I just don't like their modern formula, at all.

[–] mrbubblesort@kbin.social 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"An ocean wide, and a thimble deep" has been said about every Bethesda game since Oblivion

[–] DarkThoughts@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago

Also every space sim in the last decade (yes, I know starfield isn't one). It's such a tired phrase at this point that it lost all meaning anyway.

[–] sorebuttfromsitting@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago

true, and I have played an unhealthy amount of modded skyrim. let's resurrect the idiots who killed Morrowind, and remind them of their crimes.

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Whoops I guess I'll stop having fun then.

Elite Dangerous is as wide as the galaxy and deep as a puddle but that was fun for long time too.

[–] Umbrias@beehaw.org 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You're allowed to have fun and enjoy things regardless of their quality level, and people who say otherwise are silly and rude.

That also means that just by the nature of enjoying something doesn't mean critiques of it are invalid, that would also be silly and rude.

[–] Patariki@feddit.nl 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Almost every time something negative is said about Starfield, it feels like walking into a room with Draco Malfoy, Geoffrey Baratheon and bully Maguire bullying on Bethesda/Todd.

But here in this thread, on the worst review I've seen so far, people are actually chill, acknowledging the flaws, but enjoying the game. It's such a fresh breath of air.

[–] Quentinp@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago

I've played thru it once and i'm on NG+. It's about as expected from a BethRPG. It's a fun game with lots of flaws, but I can feel the hook there sucking me back in. I'm happy with my purchase it's a game worth playing IMO. (I especially like how they did the ending and how it feeds into NG+)

[–] amio@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Aside from Jim being characteristically edgy and doing the "angry reviewer thing", a major cliché in itself... yeah, checks out. I played for an hour, have been meaning to get back to it... and kind of don't want to.

[–] pm_me_your_puppies@fedia.io 2 points 2 years ago

I will say, as someone who is enjoying my time with it at about 30 hours currently… I felt the same way my first several hours. Which sucks - they absolutely bungled the intro hours of this game - but now that I’ve pushed through that awkward intro I’m having a great time. It’s scratching the same itch that Skyrim did. It’s what I hoped Fallout 4 would be but… in space.

I do tend to run to my ship and physically sit myself in the pilot seat before fast traveling… helps keep me immersed. It’s also a good middle-ground between the convenience of fast traveling to/from star systems and planets versus an endless fast travel menu sim.