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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

That’s the great thing about open models. Censorship? Once identified, all it takes is one person and a bit of cash to get rid of it, though it seems Perplexity did a particularly good job (unlike some “abliterated” models that are pretty dumbed down).

[–] Even_Adder@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Can't wait to try a distillation. The full model is huge.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

In the 32B range? I think we have plenty of uncensored thinking models there, maybe try fusion 32B.

I'm not an expert though, as models trained from base Qwen have been sufficient for that, for me.

[–] Even_Adder@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago

I just want to mess with this one too. I had a hard time finding an abliterated one before that didn't fail the Tiananmen Square question regularly.

[–] thefluffiest@feddit.nl 23 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Great. Has it also removed American censorship and propaganda?

[–] DarkSpectrum@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago

I believe this is what was added

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Why would a Chinese-made AI have American censorship and propaganda in it?

[–] UnsavoryMollusk@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

They can add stuff too. At least it seems so, this model still give biased answers now but more in favor of the US... So who knows ?

[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

not remove ic replace.

Also, stop calling releasing binary blobs of weights as open source

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

It's honestly not that big a deal, as it's not like knowing anything about how it was trained (beyond the config) would help you modify it. It's still highly modifiable. It's not like anyone can afford to replicate it.

It would be nice to publish the hyperparameters for research purposes, but... shrug.

I think a subset of the exact training data/hyperparameters would help with quantization-aware-training, maybe, but that's all I got.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Ctrl + F

Find: Chinese

Replace: God-damned Chinese

New model's ready!

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I run an uncensored version on my PC since weeks, there are multiple ones on HuggingFace.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Not full R1, which is developed differently than any of the distillations.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

IDK, but this seems like wankery to me. Just google it if you want to know about it, the AI isn't an "all knowing being" nor "the arbitrer of truth".

I have a feeling that a new logical fallacy will soon emerge (if it isn't already widespread on certain places of the internet), that will be "X is true because the LLM said so".

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago

It's really an extension of "Would some really do that? Just lie on the Internet?" But now "Would AI, which is built to create content like what people post on the Internet, really just lie?"

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 3 points 6 months ago

Seems like almost everyone understands that it hallucinates.