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Let's not make the same mistake that was made in the US:

The people who - rightfully - lost respect for the US and now consider it an adversary are German diplomats, politicians and the press. But the ones with the voting power are the German public. And if German voters are anything like American voters, there may be a deep disconnect between them and the elites.

And so despite the outrage of the people who know better, the German population might just as easily vote for fascists in Germany as they did in the US.

My point being, we'll know if Vance's speech backfired when the German elections are over. I'm not so optimistic that it did.

The United States has become a self-parody, where political theater masquerades as diplomacy. JD Vance’s Munich performance wasn’t just cringe—it crystallized Europe’s realization that America’s once-stable facade is crumbling. When even allies label you an adversary, it’s not a policy failure—it’s a cultural decay. The GOP’s fetish for performative nationalism has turned statecraft into a TikTok rant, broadcast to a world that’s stopped laughing.

Now Europe scrambles to disentangle itself from this dumpster fire, proving democracy isn’t broken—it’s been outsourced to clowns. The Atlantic alliance? More like a hostage situation, where the captors forgot they need the hostages more than vice versa.

Upon leaving office in 2021, Trump claimed, "The world respects us again."

Yes, although electing him in the first place didn’t help, at least we had the good sense to vote Trump out of office. Now we’re the distrusted, disrespected laughingstock of the world, and I can’t blame the world one bit.

GOP in 2016. We need Trump because the rest of the world doesn't respect us.

GOP in 2025. Who cares what the rest of the world thinks?

It didn't "backfire". The insults were the point. Why does whoever wrote this think he hoped to earn their respect when the trump regime has no respect for them and doesn't give a flying fuck what they think? They want fear, not respect.

This is completely missing the poInt. He was not addressing european leaders, he was addressing citizens in an attempt to prop up far right parties across Europe, using the same argument that worked in the US: "free speech is restrained by your leaders!". And by that, he means hate speech, because everyone can see what "free except for whatever we don't like speech" enforced in the US.

But the fact is Vance was actively trying to influence the results of the elections.

This should have happened in 2001 when the US tried to strongarm support for it's invasion of Iraq under false pretenses.

Splitting the US and EU was always the goal. Not sure how this is a backfire other than as copium for the EU while the US is busy drinking brackish Gulf water. Sad sad times.

The AfD in Germany needs to be banned and it's leaders arrested for trying to subvert democracy. Also Vance's speech and actions are proof that the US government is not only internationally fascist, but also blind to any form of international politics.

The one thing I noticed about racists and fascists in the US is that they believe that their beliefs are the standard and universal. Their own version of hatred towards blacks and hispanics they believe is universal and the normal. When they talk about things like the Arab slave trade or European views on black Africans, they believe that they 1:1 even if they are absolutely not.

Take for example in the Arab world. Is there racism against blacks? Yes there is. No one can deny it. However is it the SAME kind of racism? Hell no. There was no one drop rule, there was no segregation, there was no racial based slavery (anyone could be a slave in the Arab world) and when blacks came in, they were integrated into the gene pool. Take Egypt for example. Genetic studies from Ancient Egyptians until the Arab conquest showed that Egyptians had more in common with Eastern mediterrean Europeans and other Middle Eastern groups than sub-Saharan Africans. But since then they showed a bit more sub-Saharan DNA. Why? Because when black slaves were brought up from down south, they would be integrated more thoroughly into Egyptian society. Egyptian men would have children with female black slaves, and those children would not only be free, but also heirs to their father's household (unlike mixed-race people in the American South, who were neither acknowledged nor heirs to anything), and there wold have been freed black men who intermarried with Egyptian women.

Another case in point. There was an entire group of African-Arab people in Eastern Africa that suffered no discrimination when they ended up moving to the Arabian Peninsula. I forgot which group exactly, but you get my point.

Also there was no segregation in Europe. American racists don't get that. During WW1 when African-Americans soldiers were in France, they were surprised by how polite and accepting the French were towards them. You ever wonder why Cognac is so associated with rappers and African-Americans? Well, the origin lies there. During WW2 African-Americans soldiers in Britain and Italy also weren't discriminated against by the local civilian population, with all the trouble coming from racist white American officers trying to impose American-style segregation were it did not exist.

We are seeing EXACTLY this with JD Vance's speech. He is talking and acting 100% like some idiot 4Channer/gamergater/terminally online logic dude debatebro who has no understanding of how things actually work outside of their very small bubble and local history and simply refuse to acknowledge that other places are genuinely different from how they think they behave.

It would seem as though Vance's grift worked spectacularly well

This is the response he was looking for

"Spectacular Backfire" is the fucking theme for the USA these days. Whole cloth, complete, utterly failed state engaged in the paroxysmal death rattle.

Send a troll boy to do a man's job and this is what you get.

Excellent. Just keep pissing people off, the more the better for our side.

First time?