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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 38 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What about if the US is supplying arms to the other side?

[–] illi@lemm.ee 17 points 5 months ago

I don't like presenting things as black and white but I also feel the same - if US is no longer part of NATO we should expect them to be in opposition to it.

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 14 points 5 months ago

In a conventional fight Russian forces would be wiped off the Ukrainian map in less than a week. The problem is that nobody dares to engage them now that they are at their absolute weakest. The situation might look very different depending on how much time they get to rearm and the stance that the Americans will take.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

I hate all the posturing. If NATO is so strong, then show it! For 3 years, there have been breathless articles about the power of Nato.

But if the EU can't even supply weapons to Ukraine, then they're a paper tiger. Supply Ukraine, then talk about how NATO is strong.

[–] Chef@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago (4 children)

That article mentions β€œnuclear” once.

I believe when facing NATO, Russia would not hesitate to use tactical nuclear weapons on the battlefield.

NATO vs Russia is a completely different conflict without the US in NATO.

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 14 points 5 months ago

France and UK have nukes too.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 10 points 5 months ago

France and uk have plenty enough nukes to assure the mutual destruction of russia.

[–] teft@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

I don't think russia would use nukes. That would open them up to retaliatory nuking. France and Britain both have nukes and the russian border is a lot more porous and a lot longer than the european ones. Much easier to get a nuke to moscow than to london.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Only if nato attacks, which it won't do as it's a defense pact.

[–] Bademantel@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm not saying NATO would but they did intervene in Kosovo. That was not defensive. There's some wiggle room in being a defensive pact.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Fair point, I actually don't know how the USA got involved in Kosovo.