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Rethink your strategy (lemmy.world)

submitted 5 months ago by Stamets@lemmy.world to c/funny@sh.itjust.works

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[–] glimse@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

Putting the text right over the comedian's face is a double whammy when the image doesn't include their name lol

Who is the comedian?

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wasn't ghandi a racist pedophile?

[–] otto@sh.itjust.works 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yep. Just like people such as Mother Teresa, they were venerated for the few good things they did while every other horrible detail about them was covered up.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Which honestly is as it should be. I personally prefer looking at the good rather than the bad, because whatever you look for, you will find.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So we're talking about fucking kids here and hate fueled by ignorance, I don't think that's really an out of site out mind kind of situation.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think it is. Public figures like these become representatives of the ideas they're known for. We care about Ghandi's nonviolence, not his racism or weird sexual nonsense. The further back in history you go, the less their personal lives matter.

If you're making a movie or writing a book about them, sure, display their failures as well. But a person doing bad things doesn't make the great things they did any less great.

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[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It’s weirder than that, but he wasn’t a criminal.

I never said he was.

My point is that ghandi is a symbol, and getting into his views on Africans or whatever is entirely irrelevant to that symbol of nonviolence. It's only interesting if you're studying the man's life, for example to understand why so many Indians don't like him, but if you're referring to him as an example of how to effect change without violence (along with people like MLK Jr), it's irrelevant.

And that goes for everyone. Hunter Biden being a drug addict is irrelevant to Joe Biden's presidency. Trump having sex with escorts is irrelevant to his presidency. Bill Clinton getting a BJ from his secretary is irrelevant to his presidency. And so on. The important part of each of those scandals is whether the politician lied about them and/or abused their position to hide them, because trustworthiness is directly relevant to being a president. Whether they were good people is irrelevant.

I'm not saying we should whitewash history, I'm saying we shouldn't bring up irrelevant details when discussing figures as symbols. If you want to study an important figure's life, then those details are relevant.

[–] projjalm@lemy.lol 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

ghandi? or gandhi? I'm so confused

[–] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 months ago

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