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[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 30 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I read the article.

and I get that we were all taught to ask questions for the titles on our high school essays, but asking why pro-hitler content is promoted by a company whose CEO literally publicly performed a Nazi salute is less effective than the headline:

"There is a pro-hitler and Holocaust-denying ad on Twitter."

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago

It's like we have forgotten - some questions have a right answer.

[–] psyklax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago

"Was"? It was removed, right?.... RIGHT?

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago

Why? Because it's owned by Nazis.

[–] ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 6 months ago

People are still questioning why??

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 5 months ago

Better question: Why the fuck are you still on Twitter?

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Better question: what are people going to do in response?

Probably nothing. Disappointing.

[–] ArgentRaven@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

I already don't use Twitter, and encourage my friends not to, either. But I did that years ago. There's not really a whole lot else I can do? Start a Fight Club, squat in an old condemned house, and blow up their building at the end? I have bills to pay and family that depends on those bills being paid.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world -5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What should they do? Outlaw free speech & things that other people don't like? Guess I'll be going to jail since I'm an atheist & will gladly call most Christians mentally ill. Since Trump is in power prob will be one of the first things he outlaws. You should research legal cases regarding free speech. Many Jews have even represented & defended Nazis rights to march & speak their opinions in public without violence or censorship. There are many good arguments & thought that has went into that case law. Just cause it bothers you doesn't mean that it hasn't been considered before.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Paradox of tolerance comes to mind. If you just put up with people who want to do bad things, they'll probably do bad things!

And it was considered before. There was a Holocaust. It was decided, via violence and other means, that naziism is not okay.

Also, Twitter is a private platform and is largely free to decide what goes on its platform.

You're approaching fractally wrong, here.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Over 50 years of case law on the subject shows I'm right, but go on and tell me how you're degree in emotions proves me wrong.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There are numerous cases showing that free speech is not absolute.

Law is also not necessarily correct.

And that doesn't address that we're talking about a private platform.

You're still wrong, and you're still wrong in a way that supports the absolute worst of humanity.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There are numerous cases showing that free speech is not absolute.

Law is also not necessarily correct.

Both things fascist have said as well.

Also, what prominent cases in the US would you like to discuss regarding free speech where you think the courts have ruled incorrectly?

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm not going to do legal research or write a whole thesis for you.

Maybe start here for cases where freedom of speech is not absolute: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shouting_fire_in_a_crowded_theater

You can also consider that the NYT is not legally or morally obligated to publish every letter they receive. Are your first amendment rights being violated when they opt not to print your letter? No.

I don't want to discuss with you. I don't think you're acting in good faith.

I mean really "sometimes laws are incorrect" -> "fascists say that" is like satire.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So your opinion on this topic is 100% based on your emotional feelings & 5 minutes of Wikipedia research, which isn't even regarding to latter precedent like in Brandenburg v. Ohio? Maybe spend more than 5 minutes getting your emotional reassurance next time. X is a private company & so they can choose to use the free speech definition according to law, which the government can't restrict... that means you can't lock up people cause they offend you & can't commit assault & murder like many people here commonly advocate for, cause to them everyone they don't like is a Nazi.

You can run away now back to your hidey hole & then go find some people that are pro-fascist & censorship that you can agree with.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You're an idiot that's not engaging with my points. I hope you die alone, removed from everything you've ever loved.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

There it is. The vengeful & death-wishing fascist cultist. Explains why you like fascist ideals like censorship.