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[–] JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

A Chinese company did business with another Chinese company in China?

I'll be damned. How is this possible?

[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Myth of "Consensual" Chinese Manufacturing

Chinese Company #1: I consent.

Chinese Company #2: I consent.

US: I dont!

Isn't there somebody you forgot to ask? biden-troll

[–] SimulatedLiberalism@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This is not a joke btw.

Back in 2014, when Europe and Russia were planning on building another gas pipeline - what would have been known as the “South Stream” - the US insisted that the pipeline cannot be owned by the gas producer and forced them to outsource the pipeline ownership to a third party. (Michael Hudson compares this to an apartment building having their elevators owned by another company, who will charge whatever fee they want every time you want to go to a specific floor) The EU complies but Putin said nobody is that stupid and scrapped the pipeline. Turkey became the gas hub for southern Europe instead.

And that’s just one of many examples.

[–] buh@hexbear.net 38 points 2 years ago (2 children)

the US government can only do 2 things: adjust the speed of the money printer, and sanction countries

[–] Teekeeus@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago

stop medical supplies from reaching destination, seize gold in national bank, hold enemy assets hostage by freezing them in offshore account, assassinate and/or coup leader, fund and arm reactionary 5th columnists, stoke existing religious/sectarian/ethnic tensions, balkanize, privatize, deregulate, union-bust, force austerity, eat hot chip, and lie

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago

Sanction printer goes brrrrr brrrrrrrrrrrr

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

There’s a 99% chance he thinks it’s the same company as TSMC. Brain goes china + advanced chips = must be our Chinese

[–] learn3code@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Mao purged all of the people with the genes for creating advanced technology. It's science." - last-sight

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

geordi-no Ancient Aliens.

geordi-yes Ancient Sparrows.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

Thank you Comrade Congressman for acknowledging Taiwan as an inherent and indivisible part of China.

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 25 points 2 years ago

One of my favorite bits about this China tech stuff is just how many Chinese engineers and intellectuals the FBI chased away from the country with its racist bullshit harassment shenanigans

[–] pillow@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago

the congressman going on and on about "our IP" and "our technology" in the source article reminds me of a naomi wu tweet:

"Knowledge is property" is as counterintuitive to some as "the grass and trees and land that feeds and nurtures you is property" was to others.

When Westerners visited places that didn't understand the wisdom of one person owning a piece of land and others paying simply to exist on "their" land, the inhabitants were at a disadvantage, but quickly educated at gunpoint, that land taken from them and every "rule" they had been told to follow, broken by those that made the rules.

Likewise, Chinese, with our foolish traditions of scholarship, didn't understand at first that learning and sharing knowledge was dishonest. That we were wrong not to follow arbitrary rules of learning unilaterally imposed. As studious as we are, it took us quite a while to learn ideas should be owned and rented out, and that "learning wrong" is cheating.

But we're getting there and have learned to play by those new rules- I even have Chinese patents myself, perhaps I am too Westernized? Imagine that- I "own" ideas? Should I rent my simple ideas out like a slum lord and sit back while others toil? So much to learn.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's pretty hilarious, regardless of how one feels about the CPC.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's extra hilarious if you see by how much they're beating us right now.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Hard to innovate when constantly trying bludgeon labor and avoid unionization. The fact that so much of the Western world's high tech chips are manufactured in one place, Taiwan, is stupid from every point of view but those living in Taiwan that want to remain independent and the rich who hate workers more than they like the ability to make even more money.

[–] learn3code@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago

I've been enjoying this most recent episode of the Huawei saga way too much. We're gonna give them the double secret probation aren't we? Sanction them EVEN HARDER.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago

About a week or two after China announced their gallium and other rare earth trade controls, Japan halted sales of train IC cards due to semiconductor shortages.

I think the West is blindly driving off the cliff of having to do chip rationing and they'll all do a collective shocked-pikachu when it bites.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago

Yeah well we’ll put your under extra special naughty list sanctions! How about that?

[–] nautilus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 years ago

US congressman sanctions these nuts