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An additional executive order meant to "protect the United States from foreign terrorists and other national security and public threats" is undeniably meant to apply to pro-Palestinian protesters across America, particularly on college campuses.

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[–] Sas@beehaw.org 47 points 6 months ago (2 children)

gg .ml you got what you advocated for. You "voted against genocide" and got more of it like everybody told you you would

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 18 points 6 months ago

I am so glad that I have blocked .ml and grad

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

You do realize the genocide is (for now) over right? Like there's literally a ceasefire going on. Trump overturning Biden's posturing is... Well, it's not good but making this your "told you so" moment is just silly.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 6 months ago (1 children)

genocide is (for now) over right?

Wrong. Genocide is not bombing people, it's killing a people through a variety of means, including displacement. The expanding West Bank settlements Trump supports are also genocide.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 6 months ago

The expanding West Bank settlements Trump supports are also genocide.

True enough, but what is Trump doing and what did he do in the past to materially support these settlements? Alternatively, what did Biden do to materially impede their expansion? Differences in rhetoric don't matter to the Palestinians being expelled from their homes. And please don't respond with Biden's executive order that sanctioned a total of four people.

[–] spit_evil_olive_tips@beehaw.org 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

the genocide is (for now) over

"for now" is really doing some heavy lifting there

Netanyahu says Israel 'reserves right to resume war' and calls first phase a 'temporary ceasefire'

but also, even if the ceasefire was permanent, that doesn't mean the genocide stops.

if you bomb a bunch of hospitals, and then agree to a ceasefire, the hospitals don't magically come back into existence.

ditto water treatment plants and similar infrastructure. Diseases spread in Gaza as sewage contaminates camps and coast

a ceasefire means that the "dropped a bomb on a refugee camp" aspect of the genocide stops. the "there's a refugee camp with a never-ending stream of needless and preventable deaths" aspect of the genocide will continue unabated.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

the "there's a refugee camp with a never-ending stream of needless and preventable deaths" aspect of the genocide will continue unabated.

I mean yes, but what is Trump going to do to exacerbate that that Biden wasn't and Harris wasn't going to? America was simply never going to become a source of positive change in this conflict, so if anything Trump's isolationist tendencies work in Palestinians' favor, and otherwise he's neutral compared to Biden/Harris.

[–] spit_evil_olive_tips@beehaw.org 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

if anything Trump’s isolationist tendencies work in Palestinians’ favor, and otherwise he’s neutral compared to Biden/Harris.

I don't even know where to begin peeling the onion of how incredibly stupid this statement is.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 6 months ago

Okay I'll bite: What did Trump do in his first term that had a material negative impact on Palestine that wasn't just regular US foreign policy?

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

there's [litchally like no other adverbs exist] a ceasefire

The ceasefire was broken by Israeli reservists shooting Palestinians, within a day.

Now it's just Israelis pot-shotting gazans and begging them to lob a stone.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 6 months ago

I don't think anyone was expecting Israel to actually abide by the ceasefire, but as long as there are no gross violations Gazans can get some measure of peace that they notably didn't get under Biden.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I wonder where are all the pro-palestine people that were supporting Trump now. Their pet leopard seems to be looking for them.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 6 months ago

I mean there aren't any on this platform, but in the real world they're probably celebrating the ceasefire.

[–] aaron@lemm.ee 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm just chef-kissing these first-day Trump orders. The dipshits who abstained should eat this shit whole. Get a whiff assholes. This is America now.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 6 months ago

eyup. the far left wants to fight the moderate left more than they want to fight the far right. oh but its all the moderate lefts fault if the far right take over because we did not motivate them enough. ugh.