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[–] Iamsqueegee@sh.itjust.works 67 points 8 months ago
[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 29 points 8 months ago (1 children)

While it's great that Russia is getting hit with digital sanctions, it does highlight how much we depend on majoritarily American GMAX (Google, Meta, Amazon and X) for communications and information.

The internet shouldn't be like this. That's how you end up with limited access to important services and price gouging where net neutrality laws don't exist.

I feel really fortunate to have the fediverse.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is just Russian internet infrastructure collapsing. Nothing to do with sanctions. Although digital sanctions have hit Russia, for the most part using a VPN works fine.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 9 points 8 months ago (3 children)

This is just Russian internet infrastructure collapsing. Nothing to do with sanctions.

You don't think those might be related???

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 6 points 8 months ago

Huawei still sells networking hardware to Russia. So that is not a problem.

Also T-Bank is Russian, as is Telegram at least somewhat. TikTok is Chinese and they do not sanction Russia.

[–] ticho@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I would guess the manpower drain of their costly Ukraine war has a larger effect than the sanctions. They are simply running out of people to work on stuff, throughout the country.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

It’s more than that. Russia is in terminal decline. The last batch of properly educated engineers graduated from Soviet schools in the late 80s. They are now retiring which leaves a huge skills gap. In the past Russia used Western expertise todo the work of building and maintaining oil fields etc. but that is cut off now. Chinese engineers can fill some of the gaps but they don’t have expertise in oil fields and certain types of engineering to replace Western expertise.

The war in Ukraine has only accelerated this process.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah it sounds to me more like important services are being blocked.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

MTC is the largest Russian mobile carrier. T-Bank is a Russian bank. Telegram is mostly Russian as well, certainly not terribly Western. TikTok is Chinese. If this is blocking, then it is from the Russian side and not due to sanctions.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago

Good point.

[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago

Feels like an important cable was cut? Wanna cry a bit?

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oof, when you wake up and all that's left to do is go outside and touch grass but it's winter in Russia

[–] ticho@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So, you turn to vodka. Again.

[–] ODGreen@slrpnk.net 3 points 8 months ago

Ukraine blew up the distilleries though.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

Fuck russia

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 12 points 8 months ago

Lol maybe shouldn't invade sovereign nations, gottem

[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

The reasons for today's large-scale failure in the RuNet are definitely not connected with any exercises on the "sovereignization" of the Internet.

Yeah... that statement makes me a little suspicious.

[–] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

No plans to conduct them, but the country did just experience one of the largest scale drone attacks of the war so far.

That's the fun part about having so much of your power in a country centralized in one person, is that big decisions can happen very fast. For better or worse.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That is actually on way Ukraine can wage the war: cut the cables (like Russia did in the Baltic sea).

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They probably can but what would the benefits be?

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Let's see how long you can deal without internet.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

You mean civil unrest?

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Putin loves his centralized media. Lol

[–] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 5 points 8 months ago

But I thought Vlad had made their own internet with blackjack & hookers and darn well didn't need nobody else!

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Nice, time to play dota

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

For the platforms, I'm guessing everyone in Russia is familiar with VPNs?

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

the Vatniks Primitive Network?