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Pointing out, debunking, and spreading awareness about state- and company-sponsored astroturfing on Lemmy and elsewhere. This includes social media manipulation, propaganda, and disinformation campaigns, among others.

Propaganda and disinformation are a big problem on the internet, and the Fediverse is no exception.

What's the difference between misinformation and disinformation? The inadvertent spread of false information is misinformation. Disinformation is the intentional spread of falsehoods.

By equipping yourself with knowledge of current disinformation campaigns by state actors, corporations and their cheerleaders, you will be better able to identify, report and (hopefully) remove content matching known disinformation campaigns.


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Casting blame on environmental policies in an attempt to distract from increasingly deadly climate impacts is core to right-wing media’s extreme weather playbook

Right-wing media are falsely blaming the reports of low water pressure or dry hydrants in Los Angeles on state and local mismanagement – including suggesting that local authorities refused to fill the reservoirs – and conflating the hydrant issue with the false claim that Gov. Gavin Newsom’s water policies are to blame.

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[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 13 points 7 months ago

"Known group of blatant liars push blatant lies" is all that needed to be said.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

According to the LA Times, “Before the fire, all 114 tanks that supply the city water infrastructure were completely filled,” but the firefighting efforts required four times the normal demand, for 15 hours, which reduced water pressure. Fact-checker Verify noted, “Fire hydrants used by firefighters ran out of water because of high water demand that is outpacing the speed at which water service officials can replenish the tanks,” and quoted water policy expert Jeff Mount, who said, “At no time during this fire has there been a shortage of water in southern California. Their reservoirs are full. And there is nothing to be done with water that would have changed the course of these fires.” [Los Angeles Times, 1/8/25; Verify, 1/8/25]

My understanding was that a key reservoir was empty because it needed repairs, but they don't mention this. Did they miss this detail or were earlier reports incorrect?

[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Edit: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/reservoir-pacific-palisades-was-commission-fire-started-rcna187217

The obvious answer to that is that the best time to do critical maintenance on a resevoir is when its broken. Which it is. The next best time would be in the coldest and wettest part of the year. January.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yeah I don't think it was wrong to do so. In the past climate regime, destructive wildfires in January were essentially unheard of. I was just surprised that the article did not mention this detail.

[–] korendian@lemmy.world -4 points 7 months ago

Is it not possible that it's both? If climate is making water scarce, then it needs to be managed better.