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[–] Glide@lemmy.ca 43 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Jesus christ, we're still polling on values like nationalistic pride? Don't get me wrong, we're not doing awesome right now, but fervent, aimless pride in the piece of rock I was born on isn't something I value.

Actually, after reading the article: the collective response for "I have a deep emotional attachment to my country" and "I am attached to my country as long as it continues to provide a decent quality of life" was 84% in 1991, and is 81% as of the most recent poll. People are just substantially more inclined to agree with the latter. So we've moved away from blind, fervent nationalism, and instead recognize that the goal of the state should be to provide a good quality of life for it's citizens, and agree that Canada is doing a good job of this.

...fucking good? Nationalism is down, and satisfaction with our country remains the same. This is a win, and it's kind of insulting that the headline, and discussion here, tries to suggest otherwise.

[–] kat_angstrom@lemmy.world 28 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I mean, build a country with a functional economy and social mobility, and maybe people will feel more pride

[–] Jamablaya@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Well no shit. Instead theyve used every opportunity to squelch that. Sellers market for employees? High wages? Better import 2 million people fast.

[–] TheShadow277@slrpnk.net 15 points 7 months ago (2 children)

What's to be proud of? The fact I have to wait three years to see certain medical specialists currently? Or the past of genocide and racism?

[–] Jamablaya@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I waited 2.5 years for a surgery once, showed up, it was cancelled, they referred me to another guy, showed up, he gave me a steroid injection, said i should have been getting those every three months for the last 2.5 years and refused to schedule another appointment in 3 months.

[–] TheShadow277@slrpnk.net 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Really makes you wanna belt out o canada!

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Jamablaya@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago

BC years ago

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 8 points 7 months ago

There are faults, but also benefits. My dad recently had heart trouble over new years and within 4 hours of arriving at the ER, he was triaged, brought into emergency, had two ekgs, a cat scan, an ultrasound and consultation with a Cardiologist, then transferred to a private room in ICU

Within another two days he was transferred to another hospital to get an angioplasty and then an arterial stent, then released two days later with a months worth of prescription pills for $50 since it was the new years and the deductible still needed to be met before they were free.

I would take that over America's system any day.

[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 15 points 7 months ago

The Angus Reid poll suggests a connection between income level and Canadian pride. People with incomes below $25,000 were less likely to be proud of Canada (48 per cent), while those with income above $200,000 were more likely (65 per cent), according to the poll.

Westlake is not surprised that one's finances might influence their love of country. "Cost of living is up, access to health care and access to doctors is something a lot of people are struggling with. Housing prices are up," Westlake said. "We're coming out of a period of quite significant inflation. So you have a bunch of these things that hit people in their pocketbooks that tend to shape public opinion in all types of situations that probably reflect poorly on incumbent governments."

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Lies, damned lies, and statistics. Opinion polls don't reflect anything but how a non-representative subset of the population who have enough time on their hands to be interested in filling out polls respond to the specific question on the poll, which is often very carefully worded in an attempt to elicit a particular answer.

Blindly loving your country is an immature stance anyway. It implies you're willing to overlook its faults rather than fixing them.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 months ago

Blindly loving your country is an immature stance anyway. It implies you're willing to overlook its faults rather than fixing them.

I've always thought something similar, especially when I see people in some places who seem to make their country's flag their entire personality.

[–] Jamablaya@lemmy.world -4 points 7 months ago

If you think that's a rebuttal to my take, better start rereading.

[–] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

I've never been one for feeling pride in my country, but the fact we're all being bled dry by inflated costs of living and greedy, government-sanctioned monopolies isn't helping these statistics. So, yeah, fuck this shit hole of a country.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

As a British Columbian I always feel like Canada doesn't care much about us. Federal policy is almost entirely favoured towards Quebec and Alberta, and often elections are decided before BC even finishes voting.

I care not if BC stays Canadian or if we become cascadia with Washington, Oregon, Alaska and California. I feel like we have more in common with them than other provinces.

[–] Jamablaya@lemmy.world -3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

You think....Federal policy favours Alberta? What are you smoking?

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 13 points 7 months ago

Alberta hates on Trudeau but he fucked over BC for an Albertan pipeline. And Harper before that was definitely more pro-alberta than pro-bc. I can name more federal decisions that benefited Alberta than those that benefited BC that's for sure.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 7 points 7 months ago

Alberta is a squeaky wheel, it gets a lot of grease. Plus it's still the spiritual and political seat of the modern Canadian conservative movement.

Not seeing this is not seeing how places not call Alberta, Ontario, or Quebec are treated federally.

[–] Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 6 points 7 months ago

Didn't the federal government buy a pipeline that cost every Canadian (tax payer or not) like $800 each? A pipeline that one of the provinces it passed through didn't want?