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Summary

A post-election survey by Priorities USA found that voters in key swing states prioritized economic concerns like inflation over Donald Trump's role in the January 6 Capitol attack.

Many did not view Trump as a continued threat to democracy, including key Biden-to-Trump voters.

Efforts by Kamala Harris' campaign to highlight Trump’s authoritarian tendencies failed to resonate, as Trump's image as a "successful businessman" persisted.

Democrats underestimated voters’ lack of hostility toward Trump, particularly among younger non-white voters, complicating their strategy in the 2024 election.

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 64 points 7 months ago (1 children)

as Trump’s image as a “successful businessman” persisted.

FUCKING HOW!?!? How does anyone not know this loser chucklefuck would be richer if he'd just put his money away in investments and that he lost so much money over the years because he's a shitty business man and the only inklings of success he's ever had are because he's a bastard mafioso who doesn't pay anyone.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The orange fuck should've been in prison before the fucking midterms of the biden administration...

[–] FiremanEdsRevenge@lemmy.world 42 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And the normalization continues. Living in fucking bizarro world.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Lack of education and endless propaganda

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 36 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Serious question, why should they have cared? The Dept of Justice didn't care. US Attorney General Merrick Garland didn't care. President Joe Biden didn't care. If anyone actually cared, Trump would be in prison for treason, but the U.S. clearly has a two-tiered justice system that lets you engage in a coup as long as you're considered wealthy enough.

Both sides called each other a threat to democracy, and neither side actually backed up those claims. When the Dems tried, their donors got mad at them and they shut up, because being rude to fascists is a hard line in our country. Voters saw this and decided it was all smoke, so they focused on what each candidate was promising them. Harris promised 4 more years of a status quo that was hurting them, and Trump promised change.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

~~wealthy~~

white enough. if a bunch of people with melanin, whether they were from africa, the middle east or asia, had stormed the capitol and SMEARED SHIT ON THE WALLS INSIDE, they would have been met with a brutal, violent and LIVE FIRE response.

bet.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

There would have been more than just Capitol police present, to be certain.

[–] Uruanna@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I was pretty sure the fucking DOJ didn't care that Trump instigated Jan. 6. And when the people saw that it was going nowhere fast, their money became more important. It's not like voting for Harris was going to change anything anyway, none of the investigations were pointing anywhere to jail time or barely a conviction. Even the only one that went well is ending with the judge signalling that there will be absolutely zero jail time or fine or literally anything in the upcoming sentencing. What the fuck are the voters expected to think of it?

The only thing this article is talking about is that actual treason and attempted coup are used as a boogeyman being waved around to tell people to "vote for us or it will be worse" but never actually doing anything about it. Now they lost because they ended up doing nothing about anything. "There's nothing that comes to mind that I would do differently."

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The fbi didn't care taking years to arrest people the court system didn't care giving out mickey mouse sentences. This isn't on the American public. Dems still don't fucking get it

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

This isn’t on the American public.

It's on the substantial fraction that voted for the asshole.

Everybody saw January 6. Everybody heard the call to Raffensperger. At least, everybody who's paying the least bit of attention did, and I say this as a person who does not spend much time following political news.

I especially blame people who voted for him because of prices. I don't expect an advanced understanding of supply chains, but do people think the USA has a command economy? The president does not set prices, or have much ability to influence them.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Credit where its due, Biden picking Garland as AG was idiotic and a big part of why Jan 6 was not more thoroughly pursued.

[–] beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I don’t fuckin buy that for a second. Someone here is BSsing

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Won the popular vote by the thinnest of margins, there was no mandate for trump. Congress, too, the tiny-est of margins. More media normalizing of fascist bullshit.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

"mandate" is a waffly concept anyway. Mandate or not, they control all 3 branches of government. Anything majority vote, they win across the board.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

" Someone here is BSsing"

It's everyone. We are all trying to sell each other our own worldview for some power-jollies and so that we dont feel stupid ourselves.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This is because there are a lot of very stupid people.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

And they're all in the Democratic leadership.

How the fuck can the public at large be expected to recognize Trump as the fascist threat he is when the opposition itself doesn't even slightly take the issue seriously?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Democrats are not the party of leading by example. They're the party of "Do as we say, not as we do."

They want lockstep voting for their candidates no matter what misgivings the electorate has, but always find some Manchin to come up with some nitpick to block legislation.

They want us to treat January 6 seriously when they demonstrated that they had no interest at all in prosecuting.

They want us to treat our votes as something valuable and precious that we must jealously guard so that we never lose them. And then they don't try to shore up voting rights. And don't hold primaries. If you regard voting with such contempt, why shouldn't we?

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Oh no, don't you realize , the DNC is going to magically change and actually win elections consistently for the next 20 years so they can reverse all that trump has ruined. The only catch is you can't talk about how unlikely that is and you have to stick your thumb up you ass until then otherwise it won't happen and it's your fault.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Maybe if Biden had given Liz Cheney a medal before the election, all those "stupid" people would have gotten the hint.

I'm talking about the Liz Cheney who complained about Trump but when given the opportunity loyally voted for all his policies while she held office. Not some other Liz Cheney-- specifically the one wearing the medal of freedom handed to her by a democratic party president after she actively shat on the public.

One thing we can all agree on is that the Dem leadership learned much from the bungled election, right? And it looks like they wont repeat their previous stupid mistakes.

/s

[–] zabadoh@ani.social 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

i.e. Americans don't understand, or care, about democracy.

Got it.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

We learned by example from the party that preferred the Jim Crow filibuster to the John Lewis Voting Rights Act. We learned by example from the party that cares so little about the voice of the people that it didn't even bother with primaries.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

eyup. people seem to have no grasp on the fragility of democracy.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 7 months ago

That's because a combination of the media's obsession with horserace politics for ratings and the Dem leadership's insistence that "bipartisanship" is the highest political virtue possible has succeeded in convincing the average voter that the fascists are just regular conservatives and worrying about the imminent demise of democracy is for sore losers who are probably too woke or something 😮‍💨

Also: a shitload of "it couldn't happen here where we have an infallible constitution to protect us" American exceptionalism idiocy.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

America has the attention span of...

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

The nerd portion of me is so triggered by the "twice as fast as they were in 1973" - BUT MAH MOORE'S LAW!

:)

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

Don't blame voters for leadership's lack of urgency.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

We got clear polling and focus groups on this. Voters didn't believe it was a big deal because the DOJ didn't arrest him. They know how the justice system operates and seeing it just not operate informed their opinion.

[–] ovalofsand@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

Sources? I'd like to check that out

Laws aren't selectivly applied by popular vote. Do your fucking jobs.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (5 children)

And there it is folks, the democrats failing to learn from this election.

[–] wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io -5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Of course they didn’t! Check the boxes beside which lessons you think they should have learned:

☐ The dems moved too far to the right ☐ The dems moved too far to the left ☐ The dems focused too much on vibes and not enough on ground game ☐ The dems focused too much on ground game and not enough on vibes ☐ The dems catered too much on the educated suburban class vote and not enough on the common folk ☐ The dems catered too much on the common folk vote and not enough on the educated suburban class ☐ The dems focused too much on Trump ☐ The dems focused too little on Trump ☐ The dems should never have put a woman at the top of ticket ☐ The dems should have messaged more that there was a woman at top of ticket ☐ The dems messaging was too vague ☐ The dems messaging was too specific ☐ The dems focused too much on x topic and not enough on y topic ☐ The dems focused too much on y topic and not enough on x topic ☐ The answer was complicated and varied by state ☐ The answer was simple and based on national/global trends

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

I don't know if you're being sarcastic, but I feel all of those options are reductionist in some capacity and creates an illusion that a single tactical change would have altered the outcome. An election and what it takes to sway opinion is multifaceted and requires a diversity of tactics. To me, the problem is systemic and embedded in the party, which encompasses several of the points you think I solely blame. Namely, the oligarchic control over the party via delegates and super-delegates creates a dichotomy between the party's base of support and the desires of the billionaires holding the purse strings.

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 7 months ago

It's funny how politicians, when attacked, will assume that regular people care.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 7 months ago

That is the ultimate problem with having a government that deserves to be overthrown.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Yes they did.