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Hey! Thanks to the whole Reddit mess, I’ve discovered the fediverse and its increidible wonders and I’m lovin’ it :D

I’ve seen another post about karma, and after reading the comments, I can see there is a strong opinion against it (which I do share). I’d love to hear your opinions, what other method/s would you guys implement? If any ofc

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[–] mykl@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Every system that can be thought of (and has been suggested here) might sound great but when implemented at scale will no doubt prove to be open to abuse and require an army of mods to oversee. Otherwise every multi-million dollar social media company would have implemented it already.

Upvotes and downvotes and cumulative scores kind of do the job well enough that that’s what we keep ending up with.

That being said though, I would be interested in seeing a system where each downvote you make also counts against your own karma to discourage profligate use of the downvote to mean “I have a different opinion but can’t express it here”.

[–] joeyshabadu@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I do like that. Perhaps an exponential factor where if you downvote 10 comments you lose 1 karma, downvote 20 you lose 10 karma, etc.

[–] VGarK@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think the idea of sacrificing your own “good boi points” to downvote a post bring a new layer of complexity. For sure, the hive-mind effect would be attenuated if users had to sacrifice their own “points”, and, probably, the downvoting as a whole would be less used. What do you guys think about how the use of the downvote would change?

[–] mykl@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Oh I doubt anyone would implement that as a system, but it is interesting to speculate what it might change. Imagine all the downvote curmudgeons having to regularly post pictures of kittens to /c/aww in order to recharge their karma.

I rarely downvoted on Reddit because I’m pretty sure everyone (no matter how blasé they appear to be) gets more upset by a comment ending up at -1 than they would get pleased by it ending at +5. When I found that some instances here don’t even have the downvote button, I decided that I wasn’t going to use it here at all. If someone says something damaging to the conversation I’ll report it to the mods, if they say something factually incorrect I might correct them, but otherwise I will just move on.

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[–] GustavoM@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Something that is based on user activity and active users after a specific time. i.e the more users it has, the more highlighted it gets. (And before someone says about bots, etcetc that can be easily circumvented with filters and the like.)

[–] scarrexx@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Initially I was bummed out about not having internet points here like on reddit. However after considering the fluidity this offers... like being whoever you want to be anywhere you want... being able to migrate from one server to another... etc ithink I'd rather we keep it this way to avoid complications

[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Live and let live - Best system ever 👌

[–] realbaconator@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

As an also recently-former user, I don't feel like Reddit gets to own the upvote/downvote function, and I still like it more than some like FB/Twitter/YT Thumbs Up. I think it would be cool for some independent communities to remove the function for more team-oriented conversations, but on the larger forums like .world is turning out to be it should remain as is.

[–] ogg42@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

yah, karma was garbage, I think we are better off without it.

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[–] razorbladethorax@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I for one wish we could return to the lawlessness of old phpBB boards from the late 90s. Weren't no karma points to work any back then.

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[–] MaxVerstappen@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

The problem isn't the points, it's the people. Everything starts to suck beyond some critical mass.

[–] kratoz29@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I couldn't care less about karma, what I really want is a way to see what I upvote, otherwise I feel that what I upvote is meaningless (for myself, I like to boost content that I like though).

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