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WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. (AP) — President-elect Donald Trump on Friday added the 27 countries that make up the European Union to the list of trade partners he’s threatening with tariffs — unless the group takes steps to import more U.S. goods.

“I told the European Union that they must make up their tremendous deficit with the United States by the large scale purchase of our oil and gas,” Trump posted shortly after 1 a.m. on social media. “Otherwise, it is TARIFFS all the way!!!”

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 98 points 7 months ago (2 children)

He has found an efficient way to damage every economy and the planet at the same time.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 87 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Interestingly enough, his tariffs are slowly expanding to cover everyone that Putin/Russia considers an enemy, and his original plan for major tariffs on China are conveniently no longer mentioned. I'm sure there's absolutely zero correlation of course.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 31 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If we had anymore evidence for Trump's sphincter hugging Putin's wrist it would be lost in the mountains of that which already exists.

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[–] HowRu68@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

He is an efficient expert.. in demolition. We should make a top 10 list. Including Putin, Bashar-Al-Assad, Musk and others.

Edi: sorry, just realised that Putin and Al-Assad fall in another special category.

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 82 points 7 months ago (1 children)

OK. The rest of the world can forget the US for the next 4 years. We'll see you guys in 2029 if there's anything left.

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 33 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Isn't the US leading the world in AI? How else will the world access chatbots that make confidently make shit up?

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They even made one a president!

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago

"Hello America this is John Henry Eden"

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Like we did before: We talk with Etonians.

[–] tristan@aussie.zone 5 points 7 months ago

Isn't the US leading the world in AI?

Yes and no... You just don't hear about the Chinese ones as much but there's some that are up there with openai and Google, and there's a very real concern that Trump's policies will allow/encourage the global adoption of Chinese ai like Alibaba and Tencent's ones. There was a whole report recently about the potential effect a popular Chinese ai would have due to it being able to manipulate facts and history, and people just not questioning it

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago

Yeah just aim Ai at climate change and solve it for everybody, thanks.

Oh, that isn't an option? Guess we're still fucked, then.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 34 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Interesting he's had the idea to force the world to become less dependent on trade with the US

Kinda thought of all things he wouldn't want to risk reducing the value of the dollar like that

Edit: won't this also make the prospect of moving more global businesses abroad more appealing?

[–] M33@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Removing USA from my travel list

[–] daellat@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Me in 2016:

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 7 months ago (2 children)

hope everyone enjoys argentina style 200% inflation

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

That's unfortunately not gonna happen since the US has the world reserve currency but it looks like he's doing his best to change that

[–] TheBrideWoreCrimson@sopuli.xyz 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The times when John Connally could tell European diplomats "The dollar is our currency, but your problem" are already nearly gone. The world's currency reserves are currently at 59% US dollars, down from the year 2000's 73%.

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Sadly cannot expect it to change bit it would really be funny if the reserve currency changed to something else like the € for example.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

We can expect it to change actually. We've known for decades that we're entering another multi polar era. One of the biggest criticisms of GOP presidents since Reagan is their cavalier attitude to this fact. They keep trying to strong arm other countries like there's no alternatives and every time they do that they generate political will to move away from the US in other countries.

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah, euro is a good candidate, inflation target is 2% and is pretty stable and widely accepted. The Mercosur deal might tip the scales pretty heavily towards the euro since Latin America uses mostly USD for international transactions.

The BRICS currency would also be a strong candidate if that ever happens.

[–] Odd_so_Star_so_Odd@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

That's what he wants, he's all about the bitcoin and his own versions of it.

[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Great. In the end, Europe and China are even closer... Voting for idiots has consequences.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 11 points 7 months ago

Yes, it seems that if he has his way, the whole world will have to unite against the USA.

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[–] Dragomus@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'd say "dew it"!

Let's see if your top-secret-paperwork dumpsite mar-a-lago can pay for it's flowers and Gouda cheese selections.... And how long 'till it will serve domestic boxed Florida Swamp wine and "bubbles" since Italy or France won't ship anymore.

In his mind it's a trade deficit that the EU refuses to buy the US' chlorine drowned chickens, or make their own coca cola without corn syrup...

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

So, not to detract from your overall point, but apparently there's functionally no difference between soda sweetened with sugar and corn syrup. The reason why is after a month or so of sitting on the shelf the acidity of a carbonated drink has converted all the sucrose (table sugar) into a 50/50 mix of glucose and fructose. Corn syrup is a 45/55 mix of glucose and fructose.

So while a corn syrup sweetened coke would have ~5% more fructose than one sweetened by sugar, the difference is so minuscule as to be effectively identical. In other contexts (such as in baked goods, candies, or non-carbonated drinks) there is a difference between using sugar and corn syrup, it's just in the specific case of carbonated drinks that it doesn't matter.

[–] rammer@sopuli.xyz 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Other than, you know, taste. People can tell the difference in blind taste tests. And most people prefer the sugar sweetened version. It's just that in the US the corn lobby will not give you the option to choose anything else.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago

I brought US coke to Europe earlier this year specifically to test this. I couldn't taste the difference, my wife got it correct but said it was really close even taking alternate sips after one another. If there is a difference, it is really minuscule.

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[–] Dragomus@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Aha, thanks, I was not aware it made just a neglectable difference in sodas.

[–] swampwitch@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Probably influenced by the enormous amount of money oil barons spent on him, of which they almost certainly did with an expectation of return on investment.

His desire to "Drill baby drill!" and relax restrictions on oil drilling—including drilling into a wilderness reserve previously uninterrupted by man—and his apparent distaste for EVs and green energy, makes it pretty obvious whose hand has firmly lodged itself right up his arsehole.

The man needs oil to sell to please his owners, and belligerently trying to force the EU to increase their purchases is just another one of his hare-brained schemes.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

He seems to think that a trade deficit means that the US is losing money. That's obviously as incorrect as the idea that tariffs are paid by the country they are enacted on, rather than the country that is enacting them, but if he really does believe both of those things, his behavior makes some sense.

[–] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Don't they risk oversupply and pushing the price down if they start up even more drilling?

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

That's why he's trying to force an increase in demand

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[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Just throw U.S. on that list while you're at it why not

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[–] absquatulate@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Putin trained the fucker well. First he poisons relationships with neighbors, then the EU. Full ongoing division tactics. Straight out of the brexit cookbook. The only thing that's missing now is for him to pompously declare independence from the EU or smth.

[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

@ America, if you want us to invade and establish a real democracy, just call us...

Best regards, The Germans

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago

Those in glass houses shouldn’t be throwing bricks labeled AfD lol

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[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Donny, buddy, you can take your oil and you can take your gas and you can stick it where the sun don't shine. Also, it sounds like no one has told you that the EU is not a country. Dumbass.

[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Mr Cheetos has an interesting view on free market.

[–] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

I thought they were already considered to be in the list for tariffs.

[–] dx1@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Uninviting the entire class from your birthday party

[–] sircac@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Good, let’s make it mutual, including internet services

[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 2 points 7 months ago

Context/explanation: (at least that's how i explain it to myself)

It's about pride. Trump doesn't like that the "greatest of all countries" US is threatening to have an (even larger) export deficit with china in the future, so he wants to put up tariffs to slow down international trade; this way the deficit becomes a bit smaller he hopes.

And while we're already at it, let's extend these tariffs to europe, just for good measure, or so

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Sir, yourope? That's spelled EUROPE. OK all good? Let me know if you need anything else! Oh diaper change? Already? OK I'll call Jason and Bobby and Fred they know how to do it. They are the bigliest experts.

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