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[–] Vanth@reddthat.com 106 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Boeing managed to wave enough money to entice Kelly Ortberg to be their new CEO. Surely UHC can do similar.

Ortberg knows he's there to be the scapegoat. He'll eat crow in front of the media and Congress. He'll push layoffs and cost cutting and draw the ire of the unions. When he leaves, the next CEO will point the finger at Ortberg for any remaining problems. And he negotiated a salary to match.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 13 points 1 year ago

"Golly gee, getting reprimanded that one time sure did stink. Oh well."

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

He’ll push layoffs and cost cutting and draw the ire of the unions.

Nope they pay McKinsey to recommend it, then use the excuse that "as CEO I have to do what is best"

If you want to know more about McKinsey ask Pete Butteigig, he was one of their "whiz kids".

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 67 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No..greed will prevail

Now how they act might be a different story.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think we need about two more within the next month to have an impact on CEO risk calculation. Of course the guy is definitely going to get caught if he strikes again.

Cops have one singular mission: protect rich folks. They will pull out stops we've never seen before to get this guy if he looks like he won't stop on his own. He'll probably get caught anyway, but if he's smart he'll take the W and disappear.

Of course, the most likely result isn't a change of behavior, but having bodyguards be part of the standard CEO compensation package.

[–] trailee@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Leaders at Allied Universal, which provides security services for 80 percent of Fortune 500 companies, said their phones were “ringing off the hook” on Wednesday with potential clients. Allied covers a wide spectrum of services — including stationing guards outside offices, chauffeuring executives, surveilling their homes and tracking their families.

Protecting a chief executive full time costs roughly $250,000 a year, said Glen Kucera, who runs Allied’s enhanced protection services.

NYT article

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago

Protecting a chief executive full time cost roughly $250,000 a year

So it costs less than one major life saving surgery then.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

$250k a year?

That's it?

Sounds like it needs to get a bit more expensive.

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If assassins started going after the guards, those guards might want more danger money.

For legal reasons, this is an observation not a suggestion.

[–] rammer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

If I ever wanted to ruin a megacorporation for ruining my life, I'd start going after the lowest wrung of the ladder. Give two warnings and then execute the plan on them. Non-fatal accidents and the like. Warn again. Move on to the next one. Warn them etc. Repeat as long as necessary. Never go for the higher ups that can afford security.

This will probably never happen to me, because I don't live in the late stage capitalist hell-scape.

[–] formergijoe@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My hope is prospective school shooters see praise given to The Adjuster and change their MO so innocent children are spared.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

That's a great perspective! I love it.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago

1 is an off chance. Two more and their will legit be fear that the poor are rising up to eat the rich.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Imagine holding the title of "CEO of the healthcare company whose CEO got fucking iced last week"

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

They literally don't care. They aren't like us. They don't care what working class people think. They don't care if we suffer. They don't care if they die. We aren't worth anything to them beyond what they can extort from us.

"I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half."

--Jay Gould

This statement reflects Gould's view of exploiting divisions within the labor force to maintain control and suppress labor movements during the Gilded Age. Their attitude since then hasn't changed, except to become even further entrenched in their apathetic greed.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

There were 15 underlings hoping this would happen on a weekly basis for their shot.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair, "president of the country whose president got iced last week" is a common enough job. In fact by murders per capita I heard US president is the most dangerous job in the world.

[–] Batadon@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"In fact" and "I heard" don't go well together in a sentence. Unless you're saying it's a fact that you've heard it of course.

Also, sorry for the pedantry.

Also, just to give a source, 8 US presidents have died during office, which results in a mortality rate of about 18%. That is of course way higher than any other job.

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[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, some other psychopath will just demand the company provide 24/7 private security and take the job with a raise. Then (likely he) will just kill more people to pay for it.

So many CEOs on LinkedIn calling for more security for executives. None of them have the self awareness to think "is my company doing anything that would warrant such a response?". Maybe stop being evil fucks?

[–] 01189998819991197253 29 points 1 year ago

I'll take the job. But, fair warning, a lot of people will receive free healthcare.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, money is money... but they'll probably need to include a security detail in the package.

[–] actually@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Passed on to the insurance premiums

[–] NutinButNet@hilariouschaos.com 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not at all. They’ll just beef up security.

No doubt the other insurance companies are doing the same. CEOs are probably hiring personal body guards to follow them too. I’d imagine this extends to CEOs of other industries outside of insurance too. They know they’re all seen as unpopular with most people.

[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Step 1, get hired by security company...

:D

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was going to say, no fucking way does this work like they hope it will.

Numbers are against them. Far, far against them.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think they forget that people below them value their own lives. I don't know any security guards who are willing to lay down their own lives for some CEO for moderate pay. If it's that or continuing to live? Idk, it's a feel good measure in my book.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The security these people hire aren't the same security you are thinking of.

These are PMCs. PMCs make quite a bit more cash, and have military training to ignore some of that self-preservation.

That being said - it's still a game of numbers.

[–] spiritsong@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

No, and they will find ways to screw users more. Corpos are not anyone's friends.

Trouble? No, but they’ll raise the compensation to compensate for risk, which will only attract greedier more sadistic candidates.

Or…

They’ll hire a woman to clean up the mess (possibly at reduced compensation), because that’s the virtue signaling what corporations do when they are in a tight spot. Then, once she has turned things back around, they’ll swap a man back in and give him a bonus for all her hard work.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Companies have plans in place for continuance, so I'm sure they have a person that can take over in an event like this, even if it's just temporary until the board of directors chooses a new ceo

[–] Shard@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

This is correct. There's absolutely a SVP/EVP or board member ready to take up an interim role while they work their way through the process of a new CEO.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Not if this was an isolated incident. If it turns out to be something else then maybe.

[–] kn0wmad1c@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

Contrary to popular belief, CEOs aren't necessary for a company to run, but they do maximize the profits while they're there

[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They'll just keep a security detail. It won't even be a consideration. They'll just do it, and not even care that it happened.

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

No, someone is jumping for joy at the promotion.

[–] TokenEffort@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They should make a whistleblower the ceo so they can have plausible deniability when the ceo is murdered

[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are referencing the “coincidental” Boeing whistleblower deaths this year. If a whistleblower was made CEO and subsequently murdered, then being the CEO of a hated corporation is now a plausible reason that could mask that of being a whistleblower.

[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

I see, thanks!

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[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I think the situation is quite the opposite. There is now an opening and I bet several people see this as an opportunity at advancement.

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago

Not until 3 or 4 replacements are murdered. Then they will attempt to operate without one. (For as long as legal.)

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

They’d better do it soon too. The stock has already dipped 10% in two days.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

There will always be people who overestimate the rewards and underestimate the risks of an undertaking.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It depends - don't they already have a Number Two man?