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[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"BE UNGOVERNABLE!!" says the political party that wants to control every aspect of private life and turn you into an underpaid, uneducated drone.

Well, if you insist.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee -4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

the political party that wants to control every aspect of private life and turn you into an underpaid, uneducated drone.

As someone who basically hates the modern GOP, this kind of sensationalism doesn't help.

[–] ImADifferentBird@midwest.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Seems an accurate description of Republican policy to me.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah and guess what, people on the "other side" are saying ridiculous things about you like you want to murder babies and force children to be gay. And they say, with just as much conviction,

Seems an accurate description of Democratic policy to me.

[–] ImADifferentBird@midwest.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's not a big fucking leap to say that the party making laws against teaching history and wearing certain articles of clothing want to control people and keep them ignorant. If you think it is, or think it's a "both sides" issue, you're part of the problem.

The thing about the golden middle is that it's a thought-killing fallacy. If you just assume people on both ends are equally nuts, you can just stake out the territory precisely in between them and never actually have to think about the merits or morals of any given policy position.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

control every aspect of private life

I'm not arguing for a golden middle, no need to strawman me. I'm saying that sweeping generalizations like above are just circlejerks.

[–] ImADifferentBird@midwest.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They are literally trying to control what clothes you can wear and what words you can use to refer to yourself.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Are they trying to control what breakfast you eat? How you tie your shoes? What music you listen to?

Extrapolating from a few cases to claim there's a broad trend is lazy thinking. In the context of political discourse, it creates echochambers, misunderstanding, and hatred. Like conservatives who say "all liberals want to murder babies"

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 17 points 2 years ago

I prefer my political parties to know what democracy means and what republics are.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Don't they bill themselves as law and order?

[–] flipht@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago

Law and order just means not questioning cops when they murder people in the street.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 8 points 2 years ago

That's the tricky thing about political dog whistles, that words have multiple, related meanings. They can say "law and order" and we hear law as "rule of law," and order as the lack of civil unrest.

They hear law as police power, as in "the law is at the door," and order as hierarchy. E.g. white conservatives are at the top of the social order.

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 years ago

These are the same people who filled out fake electoral college ballots to try to steal the presidency for Trump…

[–] detalferous@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] 800XL@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago

Chemically sterilize them.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

The GOP are the rules lawyers of real life, struggling to play fair and fighting everyone to see the same definition as they do for things like "rights" and "democracy". They don't fight because the believe a few hundred million people want to have their voices ignored - they want to be right and have their fight instructions popped into their ear.

"We don't live in a democracy..." Is said by those who want to change America from a democracy. We are trying our best to be a democracy but those trolls and oligarchs stiffle any attempt to be a democracy and then hold it against us.

[–] root_beer@midwest.social 3 points 2 years ago

They don’t actually do any governing in the first place, so this isn’t anything new