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SCOTUS asks US government for its view on $1 billion Sony v. Cox case.

Case file: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/11/supreme-court-may-decide-whether-isps-must-terminate-users-accused-of-piracy/

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 60 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

The Supreme Court signaled it may take up a case that could determine whether Internet service providers must terminate users who are accused of copyright infringement.

This is insane. If this was to be ruled in favor of, it could be used to stifle dissent just by saying someone violated copyright. Fucking dangerous shit, and shouldn't even be considered, which is probably why they'll rule that it's totally cool to do.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 7 points 8 months ago

Especially when you're considering that anyone who has ever shared a meme has engaged in minor copyright violations.

[–] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It doesn’t seem in the ISPs interest to pursue, they would just lose customers. Unless they also provide cable/satellite television services.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago

That’s the beauty of the government. They can shape others’ interests by wielding the power to shut people down and lock them up and fine them.

[–] doctortofu@reddthat.com 41 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Should gun manufacturers be liable for user's murders? No? Then fuck off and leave ISPs alone...

[–] just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Thats not a good comparison, guns are designed to kill (whether good or bad, legal or illegal)

ISPs or internet has quite a lot of other uses than piracy.

Your intent is right, but the example is wrong...

[–] JakenVeina@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago

Nah, it's a great example, for exactly the reason you said.

The argument for holding gun manufacturers liable is BETTER than the argument for ISPs, so if it doesn't work for gun manufacturers, it DEFINITELY doesn't work for ISPs.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago

Is Southwestern Bell liable for what I say on the telephone?

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Let's also make the government liable for criminals using the roads.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

I’m kind of interested in where criminals are getting this “currency” that enables their dirty black market activities.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Should car manufacturers be liable for drunk drivers, stolen cars, distracted drivers etc?

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's a little different. I think auto manufacturers should have regulations that help protect drivers when they're not driving at their best. Things like seat belts are a simple example.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 3 points 8 months ago

That's a little regulation, not liability or mandating control of the product's use.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is a tough one since there is no clear "this side is owners and the other side are just worthless regular citizens we don't give a fuck about." Both sides of this one are owners. SCOTUS must really be in a bind here.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 7 points 8 months ago

so blurry, in fact, you see comcast on both sides.

[–] uhmbah@lemmy.ca 9 points 8 months ago

Might as well extend this to cell phones. Should providers be liable for everything that's said over those calls?

[–] henfredemars 7 points 8 months ago

I honestly don't know what an insane court would rule either way.

[–] Someplaceunknown@fedia.io 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Should a swordsmith be responsible if I cut someone?

[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Are you from Toledo or 1200 BCE?

[–] Someplaceunknown@fedia.io 3 points 8 months ago

Both actually

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What about, please hear me out, what about gun manufacturers?

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

How about envelope makers?