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On a monthly basis, the New Housing Price Index (NHPI) fell 0.4% in October, the largest monthly decline since April 2009. However, the picture was mixed across the country, as prices were down in 9 out of 27 census metropolitan areas (CMAs) surveyed, but unchanged in 11 CMAs and up in the remaining 7.

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[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Maybe I'm stupid, but "home prices" today mean very little when they can become unaffordable when mortgage rates, property taxes, and utilities inevitably climb to beyond someone's ability to afford it.

[–] RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Prices still aren't affordable despite this % decline.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

I agree. But things can get out-of-control unaffordable from year to year when you own a home and the expenses along with it.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 8 months ago

eyup. I think a lot of people do not realize how you are not home free with no monthly nut just because you own something.

[–] mosscap@slrpnk.net 7 points 8 months ago

In order for home prices to actually become affordable, we'd have to have the kind of decline where economists were literally using phrases like "blood in the streets".

[–] Octospider@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Let me know when prices are close to where they were 15 years ago.

[–] fourish@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

That will take Dr. Emmet Brown and a heavily modified Delorean.

[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if that had anything to do with the Bank of Canada cutting interest rates in October. People waiting for a better mortgage rate perhaps?

[–] RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

If anything cutting rates would lead to increase in housing prices. New home price decline is in line with existing home price trends as well so this could be an indication of demand pressure softening.

[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I was thinking more along the lines of people waiting on buying homes until interest rates fall which is a decrease in demand.

[–] RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Logical, though that's not an observed phenomena as far as I know. So many factors could be in play here too such as the mix of types of housing and floor sizes etc. Everything from tiny studios to 5 bedroom mansions are included in here.

[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

True, we'll just have to wait and see if more data becomes available. My original comment was more conjecture than anything else. It's an interesting development though. Thank you for sharing.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

So many factors.

Sellers may have sat on the sidelines when rates went up and sales went down. As inventory climbs, pressure grows and prices come down. Declining prices can scare sellers who come off the sidelines before prices come down further. Rates and prices coming down brings back buyers which drives up prices. Which forces dominate in any given month? For how long? No easy answers in advance.