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[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 35 points 8 months ago (2 children)

For its first four installments, the Alienfranchise was most concerned with offering up a combination of horror and sci-fi action, and less concerned with delving into lore. Prometheus, however, goes in a different direction, and Scott uses the prequel to explain the origin of the Xenomorphs and the Engineers. Though the film earned generally positive reviews and has a 73% score on Rotten Tomatoesthese explanations demystified the franchise, a move that, in addition to a focus on David (Michael Fassbender), an android, proved controversial.

I’m in the minority, but I like the lore provided by Prometheus and the movie.

The Alien movies didn’t come across as mystique to me rather that they left me hanging too much on a lot of background.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 17 points 8 months ago

I liked Prometheus, and I enjoyed the one after it a lot more. But they were both mixed bags, the horror was half assed and the im14andthisisdeep parts weren't thought provoking at all.

But yeah the lore is fine, imo.

[–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

I think the problem with the two movies (Pro. & Sequel) was mainly that it didn't give enough. So much lore was left unsaid or in 15-30 second scenes which while extremely carefully laid out and awesome, felt too divorced from the plot for the average viewer.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That was one of the stupidest movies I've ever seen. It's very difficult to believe that it was created by the same person who created Gladiator.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Ridley did say he was asleep at the wheel when making this and the people around him who are supposed to be bringing to his attention how bad it was were also also at the wheel and no longer work for him.

Not sure if he was blaming them for it or just explaining what was going on when it was made

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wasn’t this supposed to be a trilogy? We got Covenant, where’s the third movie?

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I'm case you are honestly asking, it came out in August. Aliens: Romulus

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 months ago

Romulus is not a prequel though

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh, I didn’t think that was it.

I thought Ridley Scott was supposed to direct all 3 prequels and that Romulus was set after Alien 3

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think the chronology doesn't make it less of a trilogy, even if confusing.

Not sure about him supposedly directing them out just being involved was intended.

I think he just wanted to be get involved more in the direction of the franchise but am not certain

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Huh. Yeah I haven’t followed it that closely, but I seem to remember talk around the releases of those movies that they were part of a trilogy of Ridley Scott directed prequels.

Maybe I’m misremembering, and I haven’t seen Romulus yet, but it doesn’t seem like part of that trilogy from the trailers. 🤷‍♂️

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago

Yeah, after Aliens (I like it better than the first one) the franchise went downhill. I still like the newer movies, but that James Cameron guy really seems like he knows a thing a two about how to make a good movie.

[–] whyalone@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Prometheus was a good movie, all those purist haters should shut up and let the man make movies.

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

It was good. Until it wasn’t.

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

Ridley Scott knows he made a shit movie.

Shut up and let the man make movies.

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Monsters remain scary as long as the audience doesn't know much about them because the imagination is always scarier than the reality. Giving them a backstory was a dumb move, not helped by the writing being absolutely fucking abysmal, but that's always been Ridley Scott's achilles heel. Give him a great script and he's one of the best directors around.

[–] anzo@programming.dev 1 points 8 months ago

The fact that black goo "eats" other life to "grow" implies that this Engineer on, according to the article, ancient planet Earth wasn't just planting life. Also, there was almost no lava on Earth so it would be some recent geological time. I can only accept that he was planting human-like Intelligent life, perhaps our species itself. I liked it because it seemed to align with creationist myth and that's a huge cultural mashup to me.

Anyway, I tend to overthink...

There's another 'fact' taken for granted by this article that I can't quite follow. They say the Engineer was acting on its own and this was a negative behavior in their species, a bit of a paria. What sustains such claim?

PS. I only saw Aliens (1986) and Prometheus. Not a fan of horror, but SciFi.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 1 points 8 months ago

I like to go into a movie with as few expectations as possible and hear as little about it as possible. This has never bit me in the ass as hard as Prometheus. I don't like horror(?) movies, haven't seen any other Alien movies, and had assumed it was about Greek Mythology. 😆