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Mastodon has been around since 2016 and has 804k MAU.

The platform has 57 third party apps.

The platform is decentralized and has community ran servers.

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[–] hamFoilHat@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

I have a friend who has had a mastodon instance since it was gnu social, and there are two reasons I stopped using it.

First, the UI sucks. He installed 3 or 4 different skins and they were all barely usable. I don't want or need something flashy, xfce is my favorite windows manager, but it needs to at least work and not be confusing.

Second, the people suck. It went from being okay to by the time I left I don't think I was seeing any exchanges that didn't have antisemitism or racism.

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

57 different 3rd party apps is probably a good start. Mastodon has to be easy to on-board and it isn’t for someone with no technical understanding what domains, servers or instances are. To that group Bluesky makes sense. You are signing up for Bluesky. Try to onboard that group to mastodon and they don’t understand if they are on mastodon.social or mastodon.world or any other instance.

Why would they be on one of those fringe services with less users than bluesky? That’s what a non expert understands

[–] grimer@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Simplicity.

[–] Coskii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 months ago

I'm sure a certain percentage of people can't spell mastodon.

[–] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I never post, but I do follow a couple of channels on bluesky and mastodon. Bluesky always just works. Mastodon breaks all the freaking time.

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[–] DaseinPickle@leminal.space 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Americans love to pretend they are cowboys. In reality they love centralised power and bureaucracy. They are deeply afraid of each other so they flock to platforms that pretend to be for freedom, but is actually highly regulated by centralised power. That’s why they love tech-oligarchs that pretend to be self made geniuses. It allows them to fantasise about freedom to succeed and submit to power at the same time.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

People hated him because he spoke the truth.

[–] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago

Star power. High production values. Less complex (appears to be more centralized, immediately easy to conceptualize as "twitter but not right wing")

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

All those federated platform will only become popular if the backend is dumb and the frontend is smart, i.e. you create your account on a frontend but can use the same credentials to connect via another frontend and no matter which frontend you connect to, all content for the platform is accessible to you, there's no admin having control over your experience, only people offering different UI experiences. Federation/defederation/deciding to host NSFW content, that's all taken care of behind the scene just like on Reddit, for the user they're just using Lemmy via frontend X or Y and they decide what communities and users they want to block.

[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Bluesky is federated and mit licensed

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

I'm talking about Mastodon and Lemmy and such since that's what OP is complaining about

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I don't get the rush or the need.

Everything trickles down here anyway. If you're ONLY on Lemmy and Mastodon, you're still getting way more actual news than the average joe. Popular, shmopular.

I'm trying to remember a time in the last thirty years where something becoming popular made it better. It's usually the opposite.

[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 3 points 8 months ago (7 children)

Because most people don't exactly want a community-led social platform that respects you and empowers user freedom, even if some say they do.

Bluesky is promising a Twitter-like experience. They promote their ties to the former Twitter, and promise algorithms, dopamine-inducing "reach" and "engagement", paid subscriptions, some degree of centralized control (primarily of the network's infrastructure), and a for-profit VC-funded company, all under the guise of federation. They claim a mastodon-like brand that they are yet to deliver.

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[–] bilb@lem.monster 3 points 8 months ago

Because you install the app, make an account, and use it and now it has more celebs I guess.

[–] Intergalactic@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Since bluesky is mit licensed, what's to stop a fork if something goes wrong?

what's to stop a activitypub and atproto compatibility?

[–] L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago

What is with all these wall of text answers guys?

Twitter people like Twitter and Twitter man for making it. Twitter now not Twitter is now X and no more Twitter man. Twitter people not like TeslaSpace man. Twitter man make BlueSky.

No elephant needed to make this story work. Remember: twitter brain cannot handle too many characters.

[–] confluence@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Two words: Nomadic identity

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[–] Today@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I tried bluesky (bs?) for 5 minutes. Clicked one thing, saw the comment "Sunsets are my love language," and realized that these are not my people.

[–] Chef_Boyardee@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

It's because of the connotation with an overrated metal band of the same name.

/s for the overly serious

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Because no one made a droolproof guide to migrating to Mastodon and Bluesky put money into it.

For people who can't remember their password, it's preferable.

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