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[–] ours@lemmy.world 70 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Meanwhile Synology keeps updating my ageing NAS.

They may not have the best bang for the buck for hardware but their software package is really well put together.

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 42 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like D-Link is telling people to buy Synology.

[–] DontMakeMoreBabies@lemm.ee 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Or just build your own? I have an eight-bay running OMV that I built using one of these cool little mini-ITX towers.

[–] NanoooK@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The "issue" I have with this case is the SFX format for the PSU, they are rare and more expensive.

[–] DontMakeMoreBabies@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not sure what you mean...? I bought a random Corsair PSU from bestbuy and it's working fine.

[–] NanoooK@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I've never said anything about your PSU not working. I've simply commented on the Jonsbo N3 that requires a PSU of SFX form factor. SFX' PSUs are more expensive and less common than the ATX one, that's it.

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[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

My synology box is 8 years old now and still getting patches. I would actually buy it again. Good work.

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[–] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 8 points 8 months ago

Well whaddaya know, you get what you pay for.

That being said, companies should be legally obligated to provide security patches for a minimum number of years.

[–] whodatdair@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 months ago

I have to say I’ve also been enjoying my synology - going on almost 7 years since this thing was released and I get security updates regularly still. Will buy again once this thing dies.

[–] FellowEnt@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago

I bought my DS212 in 2012. Still going strong after two drive swaps. And now I feel old.

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 48 points 8 months ago

Alright, I'll just buy another one... from a brand that isn't shit.

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 31 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yet again another reason why I won't buy proprietary systems like this. Make your own, if you know what a NAS is I'm sure you van handle it.

[–] CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works 8 points 8 months ago

I van handle everything... Honk Honk.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 28 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Lenovo did this when they bought Iomega NAS devices. The final firmware before they ended support added google ads to the web admin interface. So now I have it booting Debian and OpenMediaVault, bye bye Lenovo.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago

And other reasons why closed-source firmware can go fuck itself.

[–] Mercuri@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Laughs in uGreen NAS with TrueNAS.

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Welp, looks like I'm changing brands next time I buy a router.

[–] ky56@aussie.zone 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Banana Pi R3 or R64 (OpenWRT). Some DIY assembly required but it will probably last you over a decade.

My favorite part about these is that they are unbrickable. There is no bootloader to permanently corrupt as the firmware that loads the flash chip is in mask memory and the firmware you load from OpenWRT is the bootloader + firmware. So even if the flash chip dies you can use the other flash chip on the board or with soldering skills replace it and re-flash it.

[–] Feddinat0r@feddit.org 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So now more buying D-link anymore

[–] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 22 points 8 months ago (5 children)

this typo completely changes the sense of your sentence 😅

[–] Feddinat0r@feddit.org 4 points 8 months ago

Oh my... Really.... Thanks for pointing it out :) Of course i leave it

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[–] corroded@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago (3 children)

The article didn't specify how old the affected models are, but any time you use an all-in-one device with proprietary software, you take the risk of this happening.

To some extent, you can't really blame the manufacturers for this, either. They can't reasonably continue maintaining software for their products for an indefinite period of time. As an extreme example, I wouldn't expect the old Linksys wifi router I used in 2004 to still be receiving firmware updates.

My NAS hardware is relatively ancient, but it's regular server hardware running TrueNAS. If TrueNAS suddenly stops getting updates, there's UnRaid, or just Linux. It really goes to show the advantage of using generic hardware with open software.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

you can't really blame the manufacturers for this, either. They can't reasonably continue maintaining software for their products for an indefinite period of time.

Shh, anytime I say this about Windows I get people coming out of the woodwork that say Windows 7 should be supported 15 years later.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Don't you know that it's entirely unreasonable to expect your users to have hardware that's a standard feature on any machine made in the last ten years, that can be added to existing systems for around $30 and a free card slot? /s

I don't think I'll ever understand the insistence that a TPM module is a bridge too far.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Because of the sheer amount of e-waste it will generate by force-decommissioning hardware in active usage. Don't know why that's so hard to understand.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The only reason that's any different than any other time Microsoft has released a new OS is that more people own computers now than ever before, improvements in hardware power have slowed significantly, and people are more outspoken online now.

It's still not reasonable to expect them to support all hardware forever on an aging codebase.

I understand the frustration, but this isn't some new thing for this new OS in particular.

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[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You're right in saying that these devices are basically ancient, and also right about why you should never use all-in-ones for anything that you would want to last more than a couple of years.

http://support.dlink.com.au/download/download.aspx?product=DNS-320 The age of the devices:

Firmware: 1.00
Hardware: A1
Date: 2010/9/7
First DNS-320 firmware release

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

For those kind of devices, the manufacturer should be required to make it possible to easily load a third-party firmware when they declare a device as obsolete.

I understand it's not financially viable to support a device beyond a certain threshold, but there's likely a community behind those that are willing to keep these devices alive for a while longer, with the benefit of reducing the amount of ewaste.

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

I expect security patches for the tires on my Model T. Ford is still around, so what's the ploblem?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How is this PC gaming? Are people playing games on the NAS?

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 10 points 8 months ago

I'll allow it (my authority: some jerk that doesn't even have an account on this instance).

Part of Reddit culture was hyper narrow focus on the topics of subreddits. I wouldn't be surprised if the mods of r/samsung_galaxy removed "Overall I like my Pixel better" for being off-topic, even if it was a reply in the comment chain "I have both a Pixel 5 and an S22 and the S22 has the better camera." "Other than the camera which of the two phones do you like best?" 7 day ban, rule 4: mentions another brand of phone without also mentioning a Samsung.

That doesn't happen here on Lemmy as much and I don't mind it. While a NAS isn't necessarily directly a piece of gaming hardware, I think a lot of gamers might have one. Any who stream might save video of their play sessions to a NAS, etc. So I think this article is of peripheral interest to PC gamers.

[–] blackfire@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Just looked it up and the DNS-320 Version 1.00 is from 2010. I get it on the company side thats old and was a given to be out of date. People who own it should take more mitigations to protect against any unwanted connections. Or use something that doesn't rely on proprietary firmwares like truenas or unraid.

[–] bear_cube@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 months ago

A NAS, a router or Storage server all of the are computer. Just use old computer as nas instead of throwing them away.

[–] umbraroze@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Yup, doesn't surprise me.

I also have a NAS box that's out of support. Turned off all of the nifty services and firewalled the shit out of it so it won't be visible outside the LAN even by accident. Will replace it with a FreeBSD box as soon as I get a new hard drive.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

“Okay, I found a great NAS made by another company.”

D-Link: “No, wait!”

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.ca 7 points 8 months ago

Doesn't matter to the D-Link bean counters. Either case is a non-sale to them. Never mind that they tank whatever is left of their already terrible reputation, all they care about is immediate shareholder revenue generation, and spending money maintaining software for older hardware is a loss to them.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 8 months ago

"buy another one you ~~rich~~ motherfuckers"

[–] _sideffect@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

I hate these clickbait headlines

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 8 months ago

Opensource after EOL. Vote for parties that care, write to your representatives, sign petitions, and vote with your wallet.

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