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he's a naturally funny guy with some all-time bangers under his belt and I think it would be hilarious to see him executed

We find his strange antics funny as hell, and the fact he's so blatant about how awful he is means when he does something evil it isn't annoying, just another part of living in satan's heart. Contrast this with biden, who doesn't do as much funny shit, and gets treated like a saint while doing evil shit by many americans.

I did not expect so many responses, thanks 🥲

@mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml what gives you or other Lemmy users this impression?

because everyone's added the very clear answer that I agree with, I'll add the bit that'll really get the reddit refugees going:

Trump is a liberal. You are closer to Trump in beliefs and actions than we are.

Absolutely not. I 100% support the destruction of America

We think Biden and Trump are very similar in terms of ideology, who funds them, and whose interests they actually represent in terms of laws passed and when you ignore rhetoric.

The fact we think Biden is equally a piece of shit and respect Trump for “honestly” being a corrupt a piece of shit makes it look like we support Trump.

Trump is funnier than Biden and more authentic. Authentic doesn’t mean honest, it means he doesn’t pretend he is other than he is.

Additionally Trump acknowledges that the neoliberal establishment doesn’t represent the interests of the people, and he’s completely right about that. So we join Trump in pointing out that obvious fact but that’s like joining Trump in saying the sky is blue when the Dems are saying it’s a shade of magenta.

Trump is a patriarchal fascist who defends the interests of capital just as much as Biden and so we don’t support him. He’s a piece of shit. He also rejects the pretense of civility which means things might become more overtly violent under his leadership against trans gay and racial minorities which is hellah bad but only in fact a minor difference of degree when you look at the treatment of gay trans and racial minorities under any Dem. Seriously, show me the empirical statistics if you feel shocked or offended by that. So shove it with that shield.

And if you’re Syrian or Iraqi or Yemeni or Afghani etc etc etc etc etc then an isolationist protectionist like Trump is a hell of a lot better than a Biden.

They’re both bad. They’re just as bad as each other, in different ways.

Honestly I don’t want my comrades in the USA to suffer under Trump, that would break my heart, but also I want to see Trump tear this rotten mess apart.

I’m playing both sides because both sides are fucking awful.

lol the guy is an Epstein-associated, fascist dogwhistling sex offender, it goes without saying we should flush his ashes down a toilet. Feels weird to even spell it out.

But look. Trump supporters are a large group, like 150 million people presumably. Some of them are frothing bigots, some of them are Go Red Ream politics-as-a-sport people, but some of them, I can guarantee you, just want someone, anyone, who MIGHT do something tangible for them, and after spending their lives watching polite, civilized politicians do nothing while people's livelihoods crumble around them, they're willing to take a chance on someone like Trump. And then libs are fucking baffled by this, baffled that some crass pseudo-populist jackass who bills himself as an outsider might pull more support than their bloodless, sneering, polished ghouls.

Some of them are people like this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B1g7mjT1PA

He's got things a little scrambled, but on some level he knows he's getting fucking screwed.

I hate Trump but, in the grand scheme of things, his foreign policy was dogshit for advancing the interests of US power projection and I am of the opinion that he was a real spanner in the works for the imperialist agenda compared to his predecessors.

You might say Trump is strays alarmingly close to fascism and I'd be inclined to agree but I'd also note that what US imperialism inflicts upon the world is much closer to fascism in practice than what Trump is like domestically and that needs to be weighed accordingly, especially given that the US is only one country.

I am not hoping for another Trump presidency. I anticipate that a second term in office for him would allow him to shift further to the right as well, which is a grim prospect.

But at the same time, I'm fairly convinced that America won't advance towards socialism much in the coming few years due to a range of internal and external factors, so I am more concerned with how US foreign policy interferes with other countries and their potential advances towards socialism.

This means that, overall, I would see a Trump win as something that bodes slightly better for the rest of the world than a Hillary or Biden win, for example. (Although admittedly it would suck somewhat more for the people living in America.)

Would I prefer Bernie or West instead? Of course.

So, do I support Trump? No, unequivocally not.

Do I think that another Trump presidency would give some respite to the rest of the world and to allow some breathing room for other countries to move towards socialism compared to someone like Biden? Likely, given his previous presidency.

In an overall sense, from the perspective of "pragmatism" and "harm reduction" (ironically two things that get used as a bludgeon to coerce the radical left into voiting blue, no matter who) I think that Trump would be slightly better from a global perspective in comparison to Biden. But I certainly wouldn't cheer for a Trump victory.

I figure this take is going to ruffle some feathers but a slightly shittier situation for the US under Trump doesn't even come close to comparing to the atrocities that US inflicted on Libya, for example, and Libyans are just as important in my consideration as Americans are. That's going to be a bitter pill for some people to swallow.

Ideally Trump would be locked up, and so would Obama and Biden and Kissenger and Bush and Jimmy Carter... but that's not on the cards, aside from Trump (lol.) I would consider a Trump win over Biden/Harris to be slightly less awful overall.

But this is like asking me if I'd rather eat a piece of shit or the equivalent volume of diarrhoea; both are absolutely awful and I'd prefer neither but one is slightly but notably less awful than the other. That doesn't mean it's not a shit option though.

*stares in transgender*