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For discussion about the lemmy.ml instance, go to !meta@lemmy.ml.

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Between Lemmy.world desperately needing new mod tools, Lemmy.ee disabling image uploads, and the two main Lemmy.ml devs working on Lemmy for less than minimum wage, I want to urge and remind everyone to please Donate!

The Lemmy devs have refused advertisements, refused collaboration with Meta, and focused all of their efforts (and then more) to support the wave of users who left Reddit. The Lemmy devs did this, as they let the work owed to their sponsor take the back seat, to give everyone here today reading this message the best experience possible.

Lemmy is already at 1% the size of Reddit, but only has 2 full time employees. Not only do they deserve more for the gruelling hours they've put in, but so does everyone else who's contributed too.

https://join-lemmy.org/support

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[–] jochem@lemmy.ml 76 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lemmy devs expressed in an AMA that Liberapay is the preferred method of donation.

[–] Izzy@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It's nice how fast Lemmy is growing, but I think it is a good idea to manage expectations. In the world of free and open source software you can't just throw money at the problem to make it better. The development of Lemmy will occur at will whenever someone feels like contributing. It's not someones job to develop Lemmy so it isn't guaranteed to happen at all.

Edit: Just for clarification I'm not suggesting to not donate. I'm just saying donating doesn't guarantee development.

[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It actually is someone's job at the moment; NLNet gave a grant to Dessalines and Nutomic to work on it IIRC

[–] Izzy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Interesting news. Thank you for the clarification. Is there any announcement about this?

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Izzy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This appears to be from 3 years ago and only funds to last 6 months. Has there been any additional funding since then?

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They mentioned the current numbers in their AMA in !announcements@lemmy.ml .

From what I remember, they are still being funded at the moment.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How do I give a one-time donation? And not a monthly donation.

[–] dill@lemmy.one 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I did a custom amount annual donation with manual renewal on librepay, that seems to be the easiest. Otherwise you could send crypto to one of the wallet addresses they linked.

[–] Jomn@jlai.lu 10 points 2 years ago

Yes, that is the best way. Liberapay is also great as it doesn't take any commission itself (although if you actually use liberapay frequently, it would be a good idea to also donate to them!).

[–] Disgusted_Tadpole@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

Thanks for the quick link, just donated.

[–] ahhhuevo@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Just threw in couple bucks, thanks devs

[–] anon_water@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

I’m already donating :)

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I donated some money, but do the links in the "donate" link support Lemmy.ml or Lemmy.world or both?

I subscribe to mostly Lemmy.world instances, and have a Lemmy.world account. Which community makes the most sense for me to support?

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 years ago

https://join-lemmy.org/support goes to the Lemmy developers not to any particual instance though lemmy.ml is hosted by the Lemmy developers. Each individual instance have their own support methods in the sidebar.

[–] socsa@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I will say that I would be a lot more willing to donate if the soft ban on Ukraine news was lifted.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tell me more? I see Ukraine news. Usually browse by top 6 hour or hot.

[–] socsa@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Ah it's just lemmy.ml with the soft ban. The main "dev" instance.

[–] birdcat@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

What is a soft ban?

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Ah ok, thank you. Yeah that would be a barrier to donation for me too. Seems odd.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I don't really feel motivated since Lemmy is centralized now on Lemmy.world. It would have been great with a decentralized network, but sadly we didn't get there.

The value of Lemmy for me is in its decentralized nature. Otherwise we may as well use reddit or some other centralized corp service.

With almost all users, communities and links going to Lemmy.world... Let's just say I don't want to pay for another centralized network.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Lemmy software itself is decentralized though, and if the software gets better we all benefit from it.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I feel like Lemmy.world will benefit, not so much everyone else.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If donating directly to the two main Lemmy developers, then every instance benefits lol

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In the way of getting better mod tools, sure.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Well, I think bug fixes and general improvements is a good thing too

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