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Not at all, nor anything supernatural. I was raised evangelical and it really soured me on religion period, and I'm still trying to unlearn many of the harmful teachings. Luckily my SO was of the same mind so I'm eternally grateful for it; that kind of thing can destroy a relationship.

[โ€“] reksas@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Yes, kind of. I believe there has to be more than can be scientifically proven because otherwise there really isnt much point in this world. I also think there has to be some kind of soul, how else could you be aware of your own mind? Though I wonder if its internal or external and just connected to your body in some nebulous way.

But what I definitely dont believe is that church or anyone who gains material benefit from religion has any connection to god. And what comes to bible, its good starting point and has many good core ideas. Its also a bit corrupted by greedy and powerhungry people so it shouldnt be relied upon if you can't filter it. Other religions likely also have good ideas in their holy texts though they are likely harder to understand and relate to due to cultural differences.

Ones relationship with god is extremely personal and no one can't order you about with it.

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[โ€“] SmoothSurfer@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

I think what "god" does mean for me, you and others are different. Also same goes for "believe" and "you". I believe, these kinds of topics are way out of our minds' league and even we could comprehend and discuss those things(god, reality, logic etc.) we still would be using wrong tools like language and our current logic system. So both the tools we use, and our intelligence is not enough to answer this question.

But still, if you want a yes or no answer; I would say no without hesitation.

Well, I understand most religions as populous weapon systems to use as a tool for moral manipulation.

USA loves this shit but even uses these tactics outside of the confines of religion, it's why (some) gun owners feel the need for more fire arms to use agenst thier government, they are convinced it will help them fight back! When in reality the USA government won't use fire arms to stop you lol.

And if you just spend some time learning about geology and how solar systems are made, you will quickly find that ya all of these things work just fine independently on their own and don't need and guidence, most humans will say "hWo dO yoO tHinK maDe tHoSe eLemEnTs???"

Imo that answer might be beyond the short time frame humans will exist.

[โ€“] Dkarma@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

God? What a preposterous idea! I believe in aliens, Lister!

[โ€“] a_lemmy_user@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago

I believe we don't want to face the adversity of judging the world in front of us so we ponder "god/no god" to not think about the fact that insurance literally began as a scam or that hospitals can legally extort you for all your worth and it isn't a fair fight or that mental healthcare is least attainable to those who need it most.

No. There isn't a decisive being weighing our souls. We weigh our own conscience, or we don't. Shit is unfair, but you do your best. That way when you feel like shit you know you're really trying. You can role play a big source of approval if you want, just don't be a predator about it.

[โ€“] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've affirmed before that I do. But that was a long time ago, and I maintain the right to change my mind.

The most honest answer to the question is 'I don't really think about it.'

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[โ€“] PeterPoopshit@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Believing in the existence of God and believing God is a being that deserves our worship are 2 different things.

Also depends on which god and which denomination. If there are gods, it's more likely than not that there are more than one. In Christianity, God makes a big deal of "not worshipping other gods before me" so I'm just saying. What's considered a God anyway? Do extraterrestrial intelligent life with better technology than us count?

[โ€“] no_kill_i@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

Nope. And I won't ask you which one, cuz still nope.

[โ€“] Kaizodrack@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 2 years ago

That's a complicated question it depends on what do you mean by god?

[โ€“] DenSortePingvin@feddit.dk 1 points 2 years ago

God? No... Gods? Yea sure, i believe in nature, i believe in the balance of everything, and for a lack of giving my faith a focus, i have turned to the norse gods multiple times.

They arent omnipotent, they arent all knowing, but they are beings bumbling around the universe like us, doing dumb ass shit... like all of us... and you can ask for favors, but dont expect to get it granted, because if you arent willing to make a sacrafice, and do the groundwork, why on earth would they help you?

[โ€“] MrShankles@reddthat.com 1 points 2 years ago

"Omnism" is the closest definition to what I'm trying to define. Debates will never end, but I'm happy with my own path

[โ€“] yoppa@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I used to as my parent taught me that but now as a grown up , I dont believe in god. I mean I am not sure if god exists so I dont believe in god. Just like ghosts, aliens etc.

[โ€“] kromem@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Of a sort.

I strongly believe that the universe we are in is one created and run by an intelligent 3rd party.

But unlike 99.9% of the people who share that belief, I happen to also believe that this 3rd party was itself created from evolutionary processes in a world that was not created.

It's a belief that seems to go back at least to the 3rd century CE, but centers around the notion that a chaotic universe where life evolved without design (an idea at least as old as Leucretius in 50 BCE) would eventually create life sophisticated enough to be able to create worlds itself, and that we are in the re-creation of such a universe at an earlier point in time.

One of the wildest aspects of that belief in antiquity was its focus on the notions of Greek atomism and matter being made up of indivisible parts as an indicator of its claim of being in a copy of a higher fidelity original. Especially given that a central component of my own belief in this topic relates to the similarity between quantum behaviors (indivisible parts of matter) and hacks we have started using in building procedurally generated voxel based virtual worlds.

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