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13% of Democrats agree with Trump on that.

What the actual fuck?

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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Don't 30-40% of any given population support a strong man/fascist anyway?

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The Trump campaign doesn't hammer the immigration issue just because they're xenophobic racists. They also do it because it's one of the few issues that they can run hard on that rallies their base and has the potential to attract some democrats.

People that hate immigrants from either party consider it a central issue, so because it's so charged, there are actually a small subset of democrats that will hold their nose and vote for Trump because of this single issue.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, seeing as 1/3 of Americans are brainwashed by mass media into following whatever hype train is set forth by the rich, I can see that. If their favorite corporate owned and ran "news" told them they didn't need to eat, they would stop eating.

America is home to racist morons, has been since July 4th, 1776. Most of the Founding Fathers owned slaves, and the Senate and Electoral College were established to ease the slave owners/states that their "property" would remain theirs.

We've been a nation of hypocritical xenophobes who taught freedom and liberty while giving none of it to the majority, and every time we try to fix that they double down and make things worse. Not a single time has the US Government (or any government for that matter, but that's more a "whatabout" in this topic) given people what they wanted freely, and peacefully.

If we wanted to get rid of brain dead morons, we would solved it in the Civil War and Reconstitution. Second chance was in the 1960s when we were breaking down the barriers. Instead we still placated to the racists because we didn't want to be too mean to the racist, sexist morons who started the mess in the first place.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago

Something something and soil something something nazi

[–] elrik@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I searched for the actual question text and found:

Q19a. The immigrants entering the country illegally today are poisoning the blood of our country.

The split was 14% completely agreed and 20% mostly agreed.

I'm not as surprised by the results as the headline would have suggested because of the use of the word illegally. It biases the question negatively.

The 20% who mostly agreed may have agreed with some negative connotation surrounding illegal immigration while ignoring the racism of "poisoning the blood." In other words, if I put myself in the shoes of someone who feels strongly about securing the border, I could understand how those respondents would lean towards agree simply because of the use of the word "illegal."

To further support this interpretation: In the same survey, more than 40% of respondents favor or strongly favor building a wall along the US-Mexico border.

Maybe I'm just optimistic that only around an eighth of the country is completely crazy and that is just a less clickbaity title.

[–] AAA@feddit.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

13% of Democrats agree with Trump on that. What the actual fuck?

No surprise? People have nuanced views, different opinions, from left to center to right, even hardcore racist ones... and vote Democrats. Just as you could find conservatives who do not agree with the statement.

The statement is so vague and loaded and can be agreed or disagreed with from all kinds of people.

Edit: And yes it's quite ironic(?) that so many people agree with this - in a country where people unironically track that they're 12% German, or 20% Irish, or whatever.

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