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Pointing out, debunking, and spreading awareness about state- and company-sponsored astroturfing on Lemmy and elsewhere. This includes social media manipulation, propaganda, and disinformation campaigns, among others.

Propaganda and disinformation are a big problem on the internet, and the Fediverse is no exception.

What's the difference between misinformation and disinformation? The inadvertent spread of false information is misinformation. Disinformation is the intentional spread of falsehoods.

By equipping yourself with knowledge of current disinformation campaigns by state actors, corporations and their cheerleaders, you will be better able to identify, report and (hopefully) remove content matching known disinformation campaigns.

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Vance Once Referred to School Shootings as a 'Fact of Life' — But Context Is Crucial (www.snopes.com)

submitted 11 months ago by Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/fediverse_vs_disinfo@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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The additional context - he doesn't like that it's a fact of life, but ofc thinks more security/guns in school is the answer. Hmm.

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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"'How can we stop this?' says the only country where this regularly happens."

It doesn't have to be a fact of life. If it wasn't so easy to fucking do maybe nobody would do it. I remember when I was in middle school we had to go into lockdown because there was a shooter in the high school next door. Wasn't even a student or a parent. Just some random motherfucker that was fucked in the head. Why does it need to be so easy? So gun nuts can go to the shooting range and shoot their assault rifles at targets every other weekend? I get that it's a hobby. But most hobbies don't sacrifice everyone else's safety and get people killed on a daily basis. Just take up fucking knitting or something. Knitting is honestly pretty sick.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

There's a lot of historical reasons why we can't just snap our fingers and magically eliminate gun posession in the US, plus an incredibly small population of people living out in the wilder spaces of the US who have legitimate need for them in terms of protection of themselves and farm animals from wildlife.

The main issue though is that the cat has been out of the bag for so long, there's not really any way to claw guns back from the public's hands without costly military intervention on our own soil, which is political suicide.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We could apply our creativity to find loads of ways to meaningfully chip away at the problem.

If we valued kids' lives more than our little gun cult.

Which we obviously don't because we sit here and throw up our hands like this instead of thinking of ways it could happen. And what's worse, we try to pretend that that's being reasonable.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago

Didn't say it was reasonable to give up and not try. Just was commenting on the complexity of the problem, as there are a lot of people that act like there's some quick "pull off the bandaid" solution that everyone is too stupid to just do.

There are a lot of steps forward we should be doing that don't require a lot of creativity either.

Laws on what is banned and isn't need to be based on quantifiable statistics of the gun's capabilities rather than... whatever the fuck you want to call the current rules. There are firearms with wooden stocks that are 100% legal for civilian ownership that are far more deadly (in terms of shots per minute) than "scarier looking" firearms with black plastic/polycarbonate furniture that are banned from civilian ownership. Can't remember the specific models but they both fire the same caliber rounds.

Close the obvious loopholes. Ensure enough funding to regulatory orgs that guns being passed on when a family member dies or goes into elder care are actually tracked. I know my brother in law didn't fuck around when it came to my father in law's guns, but it's not like anyone was checking.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

Forget about political suicide. Confiscating every gun would instantly result in war

Everyone likes to make fun of Meal Team Six but there's a looootttt of trained gun owners with arsenals looking for a reason to shoot

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I donno, this kid might shoot up the school. Better check on him.