this post was submitted on 04 Oct 2024
130 points (93.9% liked)

Firefox

17857 readers
1 users here now

A place to discuss the news and latest developments on the open-source browser Firefox

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
all 26 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] that_leaflet@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

Misleading title. This is nothing new, just Manifest V2 being removed. Ad blockers like uBlock Origin Lite still work.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 22 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I'm worried about the direction of Mozilla, though. We need another :'(

[–] thebigslime@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

LibreWolf for desktop, Mull for Android.

[–] jangdonggun@lemmy.ml 14 points 10 months ago

Keep in mind both LibreWolf and Mull are very slow because LibreWolf disabled WebGL, enabling higher privacy features, and Mull disabled JIT, a massive performance hit.

This is for people who don't know then blaming Firefox being slow, LibreWolf and Mull are slower version of Firefox, just that.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Aren't those Firefox with some patches?

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well yes, but it's the patches that make them special. Every Firefox fork that disables Mozilla PPA by default is another browser that cuts into Mozilla's attempt to resell private data to advertisers while marketing it as private (which is, I kid you not, a reason they say they needed it enabled by default).

And considering Firefox itself is still open source, it's a completely valid browser to base a fork off of. Especially when the only serviceable alternative is Chrome right now.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Isn't chromium open source too?

[–] linuxPIPEpower@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 10 months ago

someone else can probably give a more comprehensive/correct answer but here is how I understand it. i believe chromium is open source and chrome is mostly chromium but also some proprietary (and therefor unknown) bits are included. whereas firefox is entirely open source, meaning you could compile it yourself and still end up with the same package.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago

I won't be surprised at all. They bought an advertising network company and most of their user-tracking always was opt-out and “hidden” in about:config and this won't change now.

They also released this pamphlet against an ad-free internet, so instead of being less intrusive with their spam and user tracking, this will become more and more annoying and complex to circumvent.

[–] restach@jlai.lu 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I installed ZenBrowser and it's pretty good. It's pretty, it works

[–] QuizzaciousOtter@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

It's just reskinned Firefox though.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

While at the same time Firefox implodes

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 months ago

It really isn't all things considered

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The average person doesn’t care. The average person doesn’t even know what a browser is. They think a browser is The Internet.

[–] BigTechMustBurn@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago

They think Google is the internet. They will most likely type Google into the search bar to get to Google.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn't call that average...

However, people are likely to blame the extension

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It’s been a decade since I have done professional computer repair, but the lack of knowledge that people had always shocked me. I don’t mean surprised me, I mean outright shocked me with their ignorance. They just don’t care, and don’t want to care. Computers and the internet aren’t that important to A LOT of people, and no, they’re not all old.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 months ago

I think you are describing less than half of the population. It probably varies by region but to say that's average is not a fair statement.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The sad reality is, there was no significant change when they intentionally crippled the API to fight against ad blockers and there won’t be a significant change now.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 2 points 10 months ago

Its a booked frog strategy. Chrome used to be great and was quite open. The internet has ramped up advertising in general, tracking in general. So, ad blockers became more commonly used. So it started to hurt them much more. Its a self perpetuating problem of cat and mouse. Chrome being the platform while owned by the largest advertising company was never going to end well.

However, there's not much between browsers these days in terms of technical ability. So, hopefully the trickle of movers becomes a wave. Open standards and competition are better for everyone.