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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/29511054

The last time I met Evgenia Kara-Murza, it was a grim day in early March. The timing couldn’t have been worse. As we spoke, Alexei Navalny’s coffin was being lowered into the frozen ground in a Moscow cemetery. Meanwhile Evgenia’s husband, Vladimir Kara-Murza, was still incarcerated in a Siberian prison cell almost identical to the one in the Arctic Circle in which Navalny had been found dead, presumed murdered.

The prospects were so grim and the news from Russia and Ukraine so unrelentingly depressing, it feels almost unimaginably miraculous six months later to see Evgenia walk into the lobby of a London hotel, this time with Vladimir right next to her. Six weeks ago, he was in a Siberian gulag. Today, he’s a free man on a trip to London with his wife and their youngest son, nine-year-old Daniel, the result of the largest prisoner exchange between Russian and the west since the cold war.

Most people he met in the Russian prison system, “the police officers, prison officials, judges, prosecutors, they don’t believe in anything”. Most are not pathological sadists, he says, they were just doing a job. “But the Alpha Group, the FSB special unit that was escorting us, I saw ideological hatred. They believe in this stuff and that’s even scarier.”

Kara-Murza’s grasp of history underpins his certainty that Putin’s regime will collapse – quickly and without warning. “That’s how things happen in Russia. Both the Romanov empire in the early 20th century, and the Soviet regime at the end of the 20th century collapsed in three days. That’s not a metaphor, it was literally three days in both cases.” He believes passionately that the best chance of a free and democratic Russia and peace in Europe rests on Russia’s defeat in Ukraine.

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[–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago

If it could just go ahead and collapse quite soon, that would be great.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago (1 children)

...

One of his generals marched troops towards Moscow a while ago...

I'd say that was a pretty big warning.

[–] burgersc12@mander.xyz -5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

That was a stunt, Putin wasn't even there IIRC

[–] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

Stunt by who? Prigozhin? Definitely. Putin? There's no way in hell.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Sure, Putin had a laugh. While the guy's plane was going down.

[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Oh boy... another one of those 8D chess "false flag!" posts.

[–] burgersc12@mander.xyz -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

But was Prigo-whatever really gonna go all the way to Moscow? I don't think he was serious (maybe he had a death wish?)

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

If he didn't have a death wish he wouldn't have stopped.

Clesr signal to the next guy: Kill putin first and without warning before moving your forces.

[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago

True enough if it happens. Putin seems to have his Oligarchs convinced he can form a coalition with China, India, Iran and North Korea that can stand against the west.

At least they're convinced for now. If that changes, the rest of the world will find out posthumously.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

Revolution is three meals away.

We'll see how winter will be for the russians this year.