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[–] Subverb@lemmy.world 109 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Assuming this isn't just shopped, which it probably is... As a guy that bakes cakes from scratch a couple of times a year, two things:

  1. Props to whomever got that pattern into the cake, that couldn't have been easy. Imagine: There's a toroidal swastika in that cake.
  2. That's one ugly-ass cake for having spent so much time on it.
[–] Mockvervain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I guess it’s the same concept as a checkerboard cake just cutting the rings to make a swastika instead. But yeah why go through all the mess to make the outside that sloppy.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because, even for Nazis, it's the inside that counts.

Nazism will even cover up for the sin of you not being white.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Fascism is, as much as anything, a process of exterminating those you don't like until things collapse. Nazism will cover the sin of you not being white - but only for a while - you'll find yourself back at the front of the queue once those more "undesirable" than you are shuffled off to the camps.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The image is so blurry… the foreground slice could have been a paper swastika cutout placed on the slice and cocoa powder sprinkled on it to create the symbol. The background cake looks partly copied from the foreground swastika.

E: autocorrect is annoying af

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The partial swastika is facing the wrong direction. Or I guess the slice is upside-down. Looks like two thin sheet cakes samwhiching a glob of frosting or ganache.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It’s the right direction. Look at where the top is on the cut piece, and think of which direction you will flip it when you put it down on the plate.

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[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 31 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I still think about my white coworker who said that the 1920s were the best times. And I had to remind him his mixed wife and kids would disagree with him.

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Let me guess, he's probably enjoys drinking alcohol too.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

...but Gatsby! and flapper dresses! and wealthy industrialists!

It's all vibes from people painfully ignorant of the time they yearn for.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

It’s like when people read or watch a period drama that takes place before the 20th century and then they wish they were born back then. They forget that they would be born as a peasant or slave working the fields or mines and every decade they and their sons are forced into the meat grinder of war.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That's not a Nazi swastika, for the record.

[–] TheSlad@sh.itjust.works 27 points 10 months ago (4 children)

It doesnt matter how pedantic you try to get. At this point every swastika is a nazi swastika unless you find it in a Buddhist temple.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I find that insulting to the cultures and people who have used it for a thousand years and continue to do so. I'd rather be pedantic than dismissive of their much older beliefs.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's on the Nazis and the people that still tolerate them and fly their symbols.

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[–] hitwright@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (5 children)
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[–] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A Nazi swastika is tilted at 45°, and points to the right (though the one in this cake could point either direction depending on which side you're looking at).

A swastika in this style is a religious symbol used in many eastern faiths and belief systems, including Buddhism.

The Nazi flag used a 45° rotated swastiska. However horizontal swastikas were also commonly used by the Nazis.

[–] 5oap10116@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

Aside from the fact that the only good nazi is a dead nazi, that takes a lot of planning and effort.

[–] Malgas@beehaw.org 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Off-topic, but, if that's a real cake and the image goes all the way around, that's actually kind of impressive.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago

Same, that's pretty creative layering

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

The swasticake.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I distinctly remember debating with a person from my old Internet community. The person is anti-globalisation whereas I am pro. This was before I realised right wingers are anti-globalisation, but he blamed the rise of far left and far right in the 20th century to globalisation, and also blamed the fall of Rome to foreigners with the Germanic invasions (it is an oversimplification as to why Germanic peoples invaded but many viewed themselves as also Romans; hence why the later Holy Roman Empire is Germanic). Then after a while, the discussion turned to women's rights because I mentioned Westerners just don't have as many children and therefore immigration is necessity . The interlocutor then basically argued that women should have more children. I alluded that there was a certain political party that explicitly viewed women as baby churners in order to breed more people for their race (I'm referring to the Nazis of course, but I should have also mentioned at the time the Islamic fundamentalists also do the same).

Someone mentioned that the user I debated with changed over time within the community. I later learned that the person got banned.

Advocating for traditional values is not in and of itself wrong, but if those values impede another person's rights then those values are not worth actually worth valuing.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 5 points 10 months ago

Tribalism is a terrible thing, and unfortunately part of human nature. Those people over there want my fucking deer meet, and this cozy cave I have: I need to hate them.

[–] mtpender@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Isn't that the Buddhist/Hindu version?

[–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

It can go in either direction, but it's more commonly in the opposite of what is shown here

[–] Brickhead92@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

From Wikipedia:

In Hinduism, the right-facing symbol (clockwise) (卐) is called swastika, symbolizing surya ('sun'), prosperity and good luck, while the left-facing symbol (counter-clockwise) (卍) is called sauvastika, symbolising night or tantric aspects of Kali.

I thought the big difference came down to the direction it was facing, but turns out both directions are the Hindu way with different meaning. And depending which side of the cake or the slice you look at it will be both ways. The other distinction between the two is that the Nazi one is usually tilted to 45 degrees.

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[–] sazey@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I have a feeling someone baked this cake just for the meme.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I wish they would have done it better so I could call it the best ATBGE ever. But it looks like the basket just replaced a big block Chevy before they baked the cake.

Kind of a beat idea, I want to make a Minecraft one now

[–] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

I believe in TRADITIONAL FAMILY VALUES like HARD WORK through HUNTING and GATHERING and COMMUNAL LIVING and DYING AT THE AGE OF 5 and BEING AFRAID OF FIRE and YEETING YOUR KIDS INTO THE FOREST WHEN THEY BECOME ADULTS.

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