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[–] hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world 66 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Guys Kamala is 60 and a career politician. I don't think this is a given.

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

She was also a lawyer early on in her career. I'm sure as an office gopher she handle plenty a PDF, printing, copying faxing and DOCX.

[–] hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

How old are you?

Kamala Harris was already middle aged when the DOCX standard was released or the workflow of converting a word to pdf became common. All of that stuff really didn't hit mainstream until the Obama administration. It would have probably even been longer for a legal office to adopt it.

I think it's safe to say she knows how to use Microsoft Word (or something like Lotus Notes), print a document, and even scan something to a pdf. I bet you could also teach her how to use ether "print to PDF" function fairly quickly. However if you just plop her in front of a computer and tell her to go at it I think the most likely result is Kamala swearing at the ribbon interface..

[–] escapesamsara@lemmings.world 1 points 10 months ago

Early on in her career was before pdfs were a thing.

[–] bazus1@lemmy.world 61 points 10 months ago (4 children)

We're fast approaching that golden age where every president comes standard with PDF creation skills.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I dunno, mobile devices aren't "computers", and Gen-X gets ignored so hard it'll likely be skipped right over, and we'll jump immediately into Idiocracy (it's what plants crave).

Although I bet Pete Buttigieg knows how:-).

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Harris' birthdate is October 20th 1964, she's pretty much Gen X, having had to deal with the 80s crap as a teenager/young adult, hell, 1965 is the first year for Gen X

[–] Wiz@midwest.social 5 points 10 months ago

Usually the cusp of Gen-X is 1965, so even she is Boomer/Gen-X

[–] dendrichor@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Douglas Copeland originally defined Gen X as starting ~1960. That tracks with Gen Jones - 1960-1964 - a boomer subset that had a very different experience from that of classic boomers. I have seen Obama described as a Gen X-er and he's older than I am.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 14 points 10 months ago

Not with their average ages creeping up. It’s the same generation of of people over and over.

[–] blibla@slrpnk.net 3 points 10 months ago

they gotta dtop being 80 for that tho otherwise it'll take another 20 years or so

[–] Admetus@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 months ago

A generation or two ahead and it'll be hard for presidents to operate the holographic interface/brain interface and find typical functions.

[–] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Obama, Carter, and (somehow) Teddy Roosevelt

[–] dditty@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

For sure Obama could convert a Word doc no problem. Hell, ~~Cheney~~ Bush Jr. probably could've as well.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 26 points 10 months ago

With his youthful, tech-savvy vibe, many assumed that Barack Obama knew this stuff. But when pressed about how to convert file types, he responded, “What do I look like, some kinda fuckin’ nerd?” His honesty was refreshing. After all, converting a file shouldn’t be the president’s job. That is what interns are for. (Recent surveys show 90% of interns’ work hours are spent combining, condensing, and converting documents in a way that doesn’t crash the aging government servers.)

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

To be fair, Teddy only managed to convert to PDF by sheer gumption. No matter how many clippies he faced, he never gave up, never crashed his Word, and always disabled OneDrive before anything else.

[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Roosevelt didn't convert word documents to PDF. He edited the PDF directly, with a hex editor.

[–] dch82@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago

"Back in my day..."

[–] sfbing@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago
[–] Lizardking27@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

I'm pretty sure you can just select pdf when saving the file in word.

Edit: lol wasn't really commenting on the politics of this post, just being pedantic about word processing software. Please don't read any political meaning into my statement lmao.

[–] egrets@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

One candidate is 78 years old, types in all-caps, and forgets what he was saying halfway through a sentence. For my money, I think it's a fair bet that the difference between a PDF and a native MS Word file eludes them.

On second thoughts...Come to think of it, a regular client of Epstein's teenage human trafficking ring probably know more about 'PDF files' (ahem) than most of us.

[–] dwemthy@lemdro.id 10 points 10 months ago

Right, but keep in mind how low the bar is for politicians. They have people for this.

Are we sure this isn't the first presidential election where a candidate even knows what a pdf is?

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

“What’s word?”

[–] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 10 months ago

And reminder: "save as PDF" is better for accessibility because it keeps tags and structural metadata. "Print as PDF" strips that and makes accessibility nerds sad. (This comment brought to you by me, a librarian/webadmin armpit-deep in updating several sites to meet the new ruling on digital accessibility for government websites in the US)

[–] jonne 1 points 10 months ago

I believe the point is that deep in this digital age the only President that's actually used a computer before was Obama (probably).

[–] Linnce@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Only when you "save as" which is too difficult for some people

[–] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 1 points 10 months ago

Correct, since like Office 2007, it is literally a built in file format from the Save As menu.

[–] Longmactoppedup@aussie.zone 17 points 10 months ago

But will she enable the option to create bookmarks from word headings? Surely no one ready for that.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Next up: tables of data in CSV, then XML, and finally JSON formats, oh the humanity!

[–] YerbaYerba@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 5 points 10 months ago

Oh dear lord... please save me from the monsters underneath my bed, and from ASN.1 everywhere it may invade.

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[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Unless we get one that can skibbidi the yeet instead.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No cap fr. Well, yolo fam, so y not?

[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 1 points 10 months ago

L331 sp33ch! ~(/s)~

[–] knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Give me somebody who uses markdown with pandoc and I'll be impressed.

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] leadore@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Or writes it directly in LaTeX.

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

Or they manually create their own typography engine using ed, the standard editor.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Where are you on a scale from convenient to a precursor of XML?

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Personally I write in org mode and export to LaTeX/pdf from there, so I'm at the convenience end of the scale, and the resulting file is probably less than a tenth the size of what someone would get from saving to pdf from Word.

[–] Dempf@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago

I think you're looking for Emerald McS. et all, PhD.

[–] atheridis@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Okay, but is America ready for a president who is a PDF file?

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Would definitely make a refreshing change

[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago
[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think they even know how to use Word

[–] Admetus@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago

It's like the principal in my school hitting return many times to get to the next page.

I did an office IT course which was next level: making sections which enable you to change every bit of the page format without altering other sections.

At the time it didn't seem to matter but that course was instrumental in saving so much time and hassle.