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Everything seems to be coming up Democrats. The party is still riding its wave of excitement over its “brat” new nominee, Donald Trump and his campaign are floundering, and their candidate has just widened her lead over him after a debate most everyone agreed Trump lost badly. What could possibly stop this kind of momentum?

Another dumb, disastrous quagmire in the Middle East could.

In their euphoric haze, Democrats and the Kamala Harris campaign have been doing their best the past two months to more or less ignore the ongoing, bloody tumult in the Middle East, which was already on the brink of tipping over into a region-wide war back when Joe Biden was still on the ticket.

The most dramatic sign was yesterday’s rash of Hezbollah pager explosions, which wounded 2,800 people across Lebanon and killed twelve, including two young children, and which an aide to Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu appeared to take credit for in a tweet

If Democrats are hoping Harris might get a rally-round-the-flag bump in the event of US troops getting killed by Hezbollah or Iranian proxies, and so possibly shift public opinion in favor of war, they should be careful.

If the wanton slaughter in Gaza isn’t enough to make them cut Israel off, then Harris and the Democrats might want to at least think about their own political futures and take some similar advice: You might prefer to ignore the chance of regional war, but a regional war won’t ignore you.

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[–] protist@mander.xyz 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

That's unfortunately not the case. It's clear much of the US news media and corporate and political establishment is entirely supportive of Israel at all costs. If the Biden Admin cuts Israel off completely, there would be an immediate, coordinated campaign waged by many of these organizations to take down the Harris campaign and support Trump, which would be incredibly potent.

A better move would be to win this election first and then make policy change. We cannot have Trump in the Whitehouse

[–] ClanOfTheOcho@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I hate that I must agree with you. You probably do as well.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you claim israel fully controls America what's the difference between Biden and Trump?

[–] protist@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

If you claim Israel fully controls America

I didn't

what's the difference between Biden and Trump

A metric shit-ton on just about every single policy

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What, do you suppose, would Trump do better?

[–] Pavidus@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Even though this is a rhetorical question, it does not mean that the issue is black and white. We should still pressure our leaders to do the right thing.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If Genocide Joe continues supporting every israeli war crime Trump will have to start World War 4 instead of 3 because Biden stole the opportunity.

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

General democrat voter doesn't give a shit unfortunately. And if they did, unfortunately Israel is a parasite that is borrowed deep into the body politic of the US so they would support them anyways

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Americans doesn't vote for Republicans or Democrats, they vote against Republicans or Democrats.

Some say semantics but I say there's a difference.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

Both parties are bought and paid for by the same donors. There's a small cultural difference that's it.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This election’s October Surprise should be interesting.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But the libs told me that Netanyahu was waiting for Trump to get to office before he made any radical moves to expand the war.

I don't expect israel would do something crazy like bombing Iran. And bombing Lebanon. And bombing Yemen. And committing a massive terror attack on Lebanon.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

You really shouldn’t have put that out into the collective consciousness, now it is inevitable. /s