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[–] Chozo@fedia.io 74 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I'm sure absolutely nobody will confuse this with Tildes.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] doc@fedia.io 14 points 11 months ago

Same. Assumed tildes from just the title.

[–] DarthFrodo@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Seems like they haven't gained traction since the reddit exodus. I wonder how the other alternatives are doing. Lemmy has a decent amount of activity at least, although I still wish more people would use it.

[–] christophski@feddit.uk 6 points 11 months ago

This is literally the first time I've heard it being mentioned since the exodus

[–] hightrix@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Unfortunately, it was originally seeded with people from the meta mod community in Reddit and so they brought all that with them.

Some discussions are awesome, but anything remotely controversial is a pure echo chamber and you’ll get shouted down if you dissent.

[–] fin@sh.itjust.works 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 10 points 11 months ago

You mean it's not?

[–] singletona@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Tilde/Pubnix came first.

First one was a thing in 1982. SDF opened in 1989 as a unix server (was an apple IIe bbs in 1985.)

[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 55 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The resurgence of a lot of pre-web protocols is interesting, but I'm not entirely sure it's going to be a sticky thing beyond a novelty.

Also 100% agree with the first comment that on an article about the small web half the content is YouTube videos being hilariously tone-deaf ironic. If only there were some other method of sharing videos with people. Perhaps some sort of tube that's peer-to-peer? A PeerTube, if you will.

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If only there was a way to communicate without videos. The Mesopotamians had something like that but the technology was unfortunately lost.

[–] HC4L@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

While I hate the videofication of everything as much as the next person. Looking at a regular website these days is even worse than YouTube with ads.. Cookies bro? You want to subscribe? Can we send you browser messages?? Here are 10 ads that move the text around that you were just reading..

[–] lemmeBe@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago

The art of storytelling existed long before writing.

[–] singletona@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

And thus you miss the point that tomasino used youtube as outreach. He also posts to peertube.

https://tilvids.com/c/tomasino_channel/videos

Now me linking to youtube when telling them about it was kindof an 'on me' sort of problem, but at the same time you need to make people aware a thing exists and to do that you must get outside of the thing's bubble.

[–] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] vanderbilt@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I’m loving the lore of the “tildeverse”, check out https://cosmic.voyage/ starting with the log entries. Feels like Futurama meets Unix Surrealism.

[–] singletona@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

...that reminds me. I need to update the Stormsong ship logs....

[–] singletona@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

SDF is kind of the grandaddy of it all. There is another system from 82, that is now under the care of SDF.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Gopher. Now that's a long time since I heard that name.

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Specifically check out tilde.town, it's really cool. For more general information about the tildeverse, go to tildeverse.org

[–] AccountMaker@slrpnk.net 2 points 10 months ago

I never heard about the tildeverse before, sounds really interesting. How does one choose which tilde to join, though? It seems to me like only cosmic.voyage has a specific theme, while the rest only differ in the OS running on the machine. Or are tildes just there to host your account, while all the interactions are done via irc?

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Tildeverse.org seems like it got a Lemmy hug if death. I can't access it anyways.

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago

It's back up now

[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Here's my old homepage hosted on a tilde on the Gemini protocol

https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/tilde.team/~smokey/

Here's my new homepage hosted on a different tilde I just got up and running yesterday since the old tilde maintainer stopped communication a few months ago

https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/envs.net/~smokey/

The new one is bare bones right now I will work on moving over some of the better logs and articles. I talk about it more in the log I wrote up last night

https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/envs.net/~smokey/logs/2024-09-16-im-back.gmi

Learn more about envs.net tilde

[–] hahattpro@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Interesting. Please click the link, it worth your time

[–] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 11 months ago

On a related note, I host the Guardian to gopherspace here: gopher://theunixzoo.co.uk/1/the-guardian

[–] singletona@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Hi. I'm the guy that tipped HaD off to these things.

Tilde communities predate the Tildes 'service.' and is effectivly a return/recreation of the pre-graphical web service model of 'you're connecting with a specific machine and using its services.'

No it isn't for everyone, and sadly no while most have email services gmail, icloud, etc refuse to interact with them.

I like it, but I'm functionally insane. It gives me a place to post static sites and my gemini based blog.

==========

https://ctrl-c.club/~singletona082

gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~singletona082

singletona082@ctrl-c.club

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Nice gopher site! I recently(?)made one as well. Its kinda fun and easy to do. That CSS is awesome!

[–] singletona@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Gemini actually.

And the CSS for the http site is literally from ctrl-c's main page with a few values tweaked, as i didn't like fullblack on background, and I edited the widths a bit. I think.

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Woops I always get those mixed up in my head. Which is silly.

I need to find time and look at all the amazing zines that are out there. ctrl-zine looks fun.

[–] singletona@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Next issue releases in April. We switched to quarterly because, to be honest, there was editor burnout trying to scrape for content each month and the zine ended up being like... three articles. VERY underwhelming.

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I can see that!

[–] lemmeBe@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If one's interest isn't in learning about Linux, host anything, do storytelling, run a radio station, or play Minecraft, there's pretty much nothing to do there. 🤷‍♂

[–] anzo@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You just mentioned what really is available nowadays. If you could mention an example of a "web interest" that's not covered, perhaps someone could start it on the tildeverse...

[–] lemmeBe@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Well, from my POV, things that interest me online are Typescript, React, Html, Css topics, news, tutorials. I'm interested in hosting as well, and host websites for myself and inner family, but I don't wanna go back to plain text. 🤷‍♂

Topics like browsers, smartphones, pc hardware, musical instruments, virtual reality, crypto.

Music production, FL Studio, and related music hardware.

So, definitely news and reviews from these fields - all that is available from regular internet, but if I could get that from other sources, alternative corners of the internet that respect user privacy, I would.