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[–] yolobrolofosholo@lemmy.world 68 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My favorite part is how they keep talking about how dangerous China is, then they keep showing tik Tok ads

[–] BrickTamland@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago

Fuckin A right, the limits of hypocrisy know no bounds

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 66 points 2 years ago (1 children)

“We need education in this country, not indoctrination in this country,” Ron DeSantis said.

Says the one who is at the forefront of indoctrination in schools.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

No, ya see, indoctrination is when we tell kids to respect one another's differences and teach them all about the world. An education is when we teach them "America rules" so they become good little worker drones without complaints. /s

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 41 points 2 years ago

"I want to see how people conduct themselves" says the voter whose top choices are Donald Trump and Ronald DeSantis.

[–] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 34 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"Consensus is the opposite of leadership" eeesh Mike. So if 60% of America agrees, the leaderlike thing to do is argue with them?

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

It does seem to be a very undemocratic statement, doesn't it? Par for the GOP course.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

This is the one, rare instance where I'll agree with Pence to a point.

Democracy can be cruel to the minority, and creating an equitable society built on freedom and justice means that sometimes, you have to listen to 60% of the people demanding something and then say "no." Leaders lead their people to where they should be, living by example and making persuasive arguments. Leaders also compromise and build consensus, and great leaders recognize that sometimes they don't get to have it their way. We should choose leaders we trust to make those judgement calls.

The problem with that is that Pence is not anywhere on the list of people with the qualities or integrity to be trusted to make decisions. Pence is the sort of guy to order pizza for a group and get four white pizzas with olives because he likes olives and sauce is sinful.

[–] garretble@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago

I don’t know what I expected, but somehow the “debate” is worse than that.

[–] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 29 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Ramaswamy is a used car salesman. I wouldn't put money on him actually believing any particular statement that left his mouth. Absolute grifter.

[–] SlowNoPoPo@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

They all are because they know their audience

[–] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

He has to be a Trojan horse, right? He nearly took over the entire "debate."

[–] Mikey_donuts@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I especially liked the part where Desantis froze and needed to reboot before giving his closing statement.

[–] meldroc@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

And he gave us his best Uncanny Valley Terminator smile!

[–] Kittybeer@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Freaking Pence thinks he's on a pulpit.

[–] Impassionata@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Pence was on a pulpit, and he condemned Trump to the court system from it.

[–] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Have you met Republicans? He's trying to be what they want.

[–] Naja_Kaouthia@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Vivek "drill, frack, burn coal" Ramalamadingdong. I'm having flashbacks to that dipshit Palin and her drill baby drill battle screech.

[–] txru@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

He's a piece of shit, but calling Ramaswamy "Ramalamadingdong" is pretty gross to me.

[–] KnightontheSun@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Exactly! That title belongs to Mr. M. Night Shamalamadingdong!

[–] txru@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Please don't

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] txru@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I think in terms of mutable and immutable characteristics.

We can choose to have integrity, dignity, honesty-- things he chooses not to. We can't choose our ethnicity, surname at birth, bone structure, childhood hardship.

People find it acceptable to make fun of people enacting character they don't like by transferring to things they don't understand or don't regularly encounter.

Think about some feature of yourself that's unusual but immediately apparent. I have a large facial mole, for instance. Think about how it sucks when people put down that feature for no good reason. It fucking sucks.

Then try to imagine: the thing that's unusual is something everyone in your family, or your community, or your culture, possesses. Maybe it's even a source of dignity and pride, like wearing a turban to show your religious devotion. But most of the majority culture doesn't understand or regularly encounter it, so it's just a joke. Or a threat. Or a scapegoat. It's hard to tell the difference, sometimes.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.one 8 points 2 years ago

It's more than a little vaguely racist.

It's the equivalent of calling Elaine Chao, Mitch McConnell's wife, "Elaine Chingchongdingdong".

Being disrespectful through casual racism is low hanging fruit. You can dislike them without being racist about it.

[–] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Please reallty try to giive everybody else on the stage a similarly racist treatment and come back to us.

[–] meldroc@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You could replace all of them with animatronics controlled by ChatGPT, and no one would know!

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They would, because the replies would be smarter.

[–] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

One of them literally said Vivek was a cgpt.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That whole top row in the thumbnail is going nowhere.
For various Republican reasons.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.one 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't see anyone in the debate going anywhere unless Trump is forcibly removed from consideration.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

A very weak field

[–] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Except Denumbnuts. He's probably going to be the nominnee.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

You're going to have to be more specific than that

[–] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I had to turn it off when they did the thing about Bidenomics. Fox News really sucks, and I had forgotten how much.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

They want to invade Mexico, wtf?