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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by Servais@discuss.tchncs.de to c/yurop@lemm.ee
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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 40 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Oh, another population density map.

[–] manucode 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Servais@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I added a population map, there are still a few outliers

  • South England has a lot of tennis courts for the population
  • Same for West of France
  • East Germany has a high population but no court
  • Mallorca is a tourist hotspot
[–] allywilson@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

South England has a lot of tennis courts for the population

Is it? Isn't it the most densely populated area in Europe?

[–] Servais@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Very interesting question, I had to do some research to find out (especially since the Brexit and UK is not included in Eurostat data anymore)

If we look at NL vs England

This map shows the difference, in the NL it's more spread while in England it's focused on the big cities

Source: http://www.statsmapsnpix.com/2020/04/population-density-in-europe.html

This interactive map also shows the data: http://www.luminocity3d.org/WorldPopDen/#8/51.856/3.705

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

This has more useful insight than the wrong-data tennis-court trivia! I had no idea England was denser than the Netherlands.

[–] Rexelpitlum@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 11 months ago

Partly yes, but also of culture/history.

E.g. England that invented it having a really high density or Eastern Germany being basically blank (main tennis hype has been in the 80's in Western Germany).

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'd rather say tennis isn't that poular in eastern Europe.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Tennis is not very popular anywhere. If we use the number of top players each region has as proxy for how popular tennis is relatively, then it's not doing that bad in eastern Europe.

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 4 points 11 months ago

At least in Western Germany, there has been a tennis boom in the 1980s and 90s when Boris Becker and Steffi Graf were active and successful. Thus, you can still see the inner German border between GDR and FRG on the map.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This map would actually be interesting if it were normalized against population density. Tennis court density per 1000 inhabitants. Probably need to do it per 100.

[–] lemming@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is it, though? Is Spain, Poland and Balkan so much less populated than Germany or France?

[–] banghida@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] lemming@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Are we looking at the same pictures? Spain is less dense, but Poland seems mostly denser than rural France and Balkan roughly the same.

[–] banghida@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Go see in person or find better data. Spain is a desert between big towns. Poland has only 35ish M people on all that land. You can drive for hours in west Balkans without seeing a single settlement. Croatia, for example has less than 4M people in an area which is bigger than the Netherlands. The Netherlands has like 18M people.

[–] Servais@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 11 months ago

Using http://www.luminocity3d.org/WorldPopDen/#10/44.1517/0.0082

The West of France seems to have a high number of tennis courts for the population, probably because it's a a tourist area.

[–] lemming@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

You mean like official EU data? https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/databrowser/view/demo_r_d3dens/default/map?lang=en And "go see in person" is a very bad advice to anything data-related in most cases. Compating population density anywhere in Europe with Netherlands isn't fair. Poland, Hungary and Romania (and north Balkan as well, it seems) have denser population than rural France, for example. Spain is less densely populated, but still has about as many tennis courts, so it must have much more per capita. It just isn't a population density map. It is another Iron curtain division map, but even so, Czechia and Slovakia stand out as exceptions. There is interesting information in there.

[–] colourednumbers@slrpnk.net 11 points 11 months ago

Please correlate the data with population density. Tennis courts per person will give a better insight into where tennis is popular.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

needs to be in m^2 tennis court per person format

[–] Vinny_93@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Apparently Portugal and Spain mostly play it by the water

[–] Rexelpitlum@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

...or provide sports facilities for tourists?

[–] Vinny_93@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think the population density argument plays best here. I'm not as well versed in Spain, but for Portugal the largest concentration is Porto and Lisbon.

[–] Rexelpitlum@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago

For Spain the highest concentration seems to be on Mallorca, which is a tourist hotspot.

[–] Afghaniscran@feddit.uk 2 points 11 months ago

From this I have learnt the Wirral is an overpopulated tennis court.

[–] Taalen@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Missing the tennis court near my family cottage.