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Tesla knew Autopilot caused death, but didn't fix it::Software's alleged inability to handle cross traffic central to court battle after two road deaths

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[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's time to give up the Tesla FSD dream. I loved the idea of it when it came out, and believed it would get better over time. FSD simply hasn't. Worse, Musk has either fired or lost all the engineering talent Telsa had. FSD is only going to get worse from here and it's time to put a stop to it.

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Didn't, or couldn't? Tesla uses a vastly inferior technology to run their "automated" driving protocols. It's a hardware problem first and foremost.

It's like trying to drive a car with a 720p resolution camera mounted on the license plate holder versus a 4k monitor on the top of the car. That's not a perfect analogy, but it's close enough for those not aware of how cheap these cars and their tech really is.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It remains to be seen what hardware is required for autonomous driving as no company has a fully functioning system, so there is no baseline to compare to. Cruise (the "4k monitor" in your anaology) just had to cut their fleet of geofenced vehicles after back to back crashes involving emergency vehicles along with blocking traffic and attempting to run over things like fire hoses.

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

driving as no company has a fully functioning

Mercedes made level 4.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

There's like three comments in here talking about the technology, everyone else is arguing about names like people are magically absolved of personal responsibilities when they believe advertising over common sense.

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because the tech has inarguably failed. It's all about the lawyers and how long they can extend Tesla's irresponsibility.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

See, I would much rather have this discussion vs another one about advertising and names.

We're seeing progress. Ford is expanding features on Blue Cruise (in-lane avoidance maneuvers I believe). I think Mercedes is expanding the area theirs works in. Tesla added off-highway navigation in the last year.

No one's reached full autonomy for more than a few minutes or a few miles, but I wouldn't say there's no argument there. In fact, I'd say they're arguably making visible progress.

[–] Nogami@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Calling it Autopilot was always a marketing decision. It's a driver assistance feature, nothing more. When used "as intended", it works great. I drove for 14 hours during a road trip using AP and arrived not dead tired and still alert. That's awesome, and would never have happened in a conventional car.

I have the "FSD" beta right now. It has potential, but I still always keep a hand on the wheel and am in control of my car.

At the end of the day, if the car makes a poor choice because of the automation, I'm still responsible as the driver, and I don't want an accident, injury, or death on my conscience.

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