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[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 132 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Hydrogen bomb, that's irresponsible journalism really.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

I had a genuine momentary freak out.

[–] subignition@fedia.io 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Second sentence in the article clarifies that it wasn't a thermonuclear device.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

still shitty journalism, it's clickbait bullshit

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean....it was a hydrogen bomb. What else you gonna call it?

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

That term almost exclusively refers to thermonuclear weapons.

The amazing Ukrainians created what's basically a fuel-air-bomb often referred to as a thermobaric weapon. By spreading the hydrogen out you get a larger bang because the mix reaches a better mixture between the air (oxidizer) and fuel (hydrogen) powering the explosion. It's damn nifty and props to them, but it's not a hydrogen bomb in the conventionally used sense of the word.

I really dislike the term hydrogen bomb because I don't want anyone, anywhere to confuse the terminology and give RU any excuses to escalate from conventional weapons, which probably sounds like an overreaction but if you see the shit the russians use to justify their bullshit...

See: russian accusations of use of chemical weapons while they're being accused by ukraine of using chemical weapons. Don't give them loaded rhetorical talking points.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Personally, I think that "hydrogen bomb" is a worse name for the fission/fusion bomb than for this one. I mean, it is what it is because the name has meant the fission/fusion bomb since it first became a thing, but it was either a bad naming or the name was selected because it was deliberately misleading (cold war and all).

[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

400lbs explosive is less than standard 500lbs bomb. The title makes it clear tbh

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No idea what this even means tbf

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

500 lbs is the standard size bomb that US fighter aircraft carry. Some of them can carry up to 2500 lb bombs, but lose their stealth capabilities because the bomb is outside the airframe.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 3 points 11 months ago

So basically, really big carbomb

And using "lbs" makes it clear that the publication is not targeted towards people who think critically.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

fuel air bomb would be the most accurate description.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

It's also not a fuel cell, it's the tank

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I mean, it's a bomb fueled by the hydrogen fuel cell in the vehicle. Not sure what else you would call it when trying to differentiate it from something a traditional car or one made from a truck filled with ammonium nitrate.

Yes the term Hydrogen Bomb also refers to a thermonuclear device, but the same two word term han have different, yet similar, meanings.

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

A hydrogen bomb is a thermonuclear weapon, so almost anything other than that.

[–] datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hydrogen is a very simple atom, so how about cslling it the atom bomb?

edit: /s

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

That name is also already taken. An atom bomb usually refers to the first generation of nuclear bombs that use only fission, e.g., those used in WWII. The hydrogen bomb refers to the second generation of nuclear bombs that use a chain reaction of nuclear fission and fusion to create bombs that are orders of magnitude more powerful.

For comparison, Fat Man was ~20 kilotons and the largest ever bomb (Tsar Bomba) was ~50,000 kilotons.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

And why would Yahoo Autos be where you found out Ukraine detonated a thermonuclear weapon in Russia?

The internet was a mistake. Everyone lost the ability for critical thinking or to even look where an article is from apparently.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

You don't deserve to be downvoted for this. It's a bomb, that uses hydrogen as fuel, what else would you call it?

And yes, Yahoo Autos is definitely not where you'd hear about this first.

[–] SpacetimeMachine@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's journalistic malpractice to not call it something that would differentiate it from a nuke. Simply calling it "a hydrogen cell bomb" or "a bomb fueled by hydrogen" would still be just as accurate and not imply it's a nuke.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

On the flip side, Ukraine detonating a nuke wouldn't be something we're discovering about on Yahoo Autos. That would be all over mainstream news everywhere.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

no one says hydrogen bomb referring to conventional arms. it's not a thing.

[–] AlDente@sh.itjust.works -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

no one says hydrogen bomb referring to conventional arms.

Bold claim, considering you're posting in a thread where the article does exactly that. 🀣

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

fortunately, this stupid thread doesn't encompass the rest of the ENTIRE FUCKING WORLD.

bold claim? pull your head out

[–] AlDente@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, you did say "no one". Cheer up grumpy-pants!

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

you're entirely correct, I should have stated 'no one with half a brain or a quarter of an education would make that mistake.'

appreciate the feedback.

[–] aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

note for anyone scrolling by: not a nuke, just hydrogen-air explosion

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So, a more energetic miniature Hindenburg?

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

in so far as the fuel in this burned all at once, instead of slowly over time like hindy. if the hindenburg had exploded all at once, it would be like this.

not really, as the fuel cell would have been pressurized

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well at least somebody found a use for a Mirai. Props to the Ukrainian military for an explosion in their creativity.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They probably only took out the tank so the rest is still scrap.

now any Mirari on the side of the road is a potential explosive to be aware of.

Oh wait... there are none.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

One of the tanks.

[–] Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago
[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

And here I was only able to turn my Ford Fiesta into a standard nuclear bomb.

[–] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago
[–] erin@lemmy.sidh.bzh 2 points 1 year ago

it was this moment ~~Jackson~~ putler knew he fucked up!

[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago