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[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

"I've always believed that what doesn't kill you, makes you very very weak."

  • Norm Macdonald
[–] confusedbytheBasics@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Don't they usually mutate to less deadly forms? Killing their host isn't exactly a successful strategy.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yes, killing the host is considered a jerk move in the microbial community, but some still take the suicidal path, it's a bacterial insanity issue

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

AIDS didn't get the memo, try emailing them.

[–] confusedbytheBasics@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

HIV won't kill you. It weakens your immune system so other diseases kill you.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

"I didn't kill you. I put an ax in your ribcage so that the bloodloss would kill you"

/s, but only kinda. Whether HIV kills directly or indirectly, at the end of the day the host is still dead and poor HIV has nowhere to live 🥺

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

No but it does mutate at a lighting rate. That's why we can cure it. Something about protein strands constantly evolving.

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Airborne respiratory viruses in humans tend to decrease in lethality. This doesn't really transfer anywhere else. The decrease in severity in is due to selection pressure from human quarantine behavior.

Killing the host is normal in single celled organisms. The most common method viruses leave the cell I by causing it to burst open.

Killing the host is also common in the plant world.

[–] confusedbytheBasics@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I see my mistake. I was overly focused on airborne data. Malaria hasn't really changed for the better has it. Thank you.

[–] jjagaimo@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Cancer is a prime example of op message

Also viruses started somewhere. A lot had to mutate to get them to be so deadly to begin with for deadly ones.

[–] confusedbytheBasics@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Uh... Cancer is not an organism with its own genes. Cancer is you baby, you're just just getting out of control. Viruses sometimes start deadly but they almost always get less deadly over time.

[–] ricdeh@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not true. As the other commenter noted, bacteriophages (which are viruses) are released from the infected bacterium through the lysis of the bacterium in question. The death of the "host" is literally essential to their multiplication.

[–] confusedbytheBasics@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I stand corrected. Let me adjust my comment. Most viruses, the vast majority, are not deadly to humans. Those that are tend to mutate to become less deadly to humans over time.

[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't the bacteriophage, kind of a good guy virus ? Or is there other viruses with this distinctive shape ?

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 9 points 1 year ago

"If at first you don't succeed, mutate and try again." - microorganisms

[–] dch82@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago

Whatever doesn’t kill you will eventually kill you (when your immune system fails)

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm missing something here, because I keep seeing posts like this one that have no content. No images, no videos, not a text post, it's just the title "What doesn't kill ya" with no explanation.

I see all other posts elsewhere fine, it seems to just be posts in this one community, or from this one user maybe? I'm not sure.

I'm on Boost if that makes any difference...

[–] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

The image just loaded very slowly for me (i.e. after about 10 seconds). In some posts it never loads at all, but there is a thumbnail in the main screen. This is on sync.

[–] Takios@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

I'm on Jerboa and there's an image in the post.

[–] tfowinder@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

It's a play on a saying

What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Maybe try a different instance? Whether you see an image mostly depends on whether your instance has cached the picture

This community is worse than most at providing alt text

The image is a needlework project in an circular frame. Representations of bacteria and viruses decorate the center of the piece with text above reading "whatever doesn't kill you" and text below "mutates and tries again"

[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Demotivational shoulder patch!