That's a ... bit of a stretch in my opinion to make atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki to be about working class
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Especially since the Japanese government were fascist who would literally hunt down and assassinate anyone having to do with socialism.
I would normally try and make attempts to distinguish between a people and it's state, but the history of empirical Japan basically makes that impossible. The citizen population were just as bloodthirsty as the state leaders, throwing riots because they didn't think the military were doing enough war crimes in China.
Imo it's hard to feel bad for the working class of Japan when 30k of the people killed by the blast were Koreans being used as slave labour.
Hiroito was never judged by those crims. I suspect that fight against fascism was not, and never has been, a priority of the U.S.
The US intention was clearly to commit mass murder of civilians (most of them members of the working class): They threw the bomb in the city center, not in the few nonstrategic military barracks nor in the military industries, and less than 10% of the deaths were militaries.
See, by example, https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/hiroshima-and-myths-military-targets-and-unconditional-surrender
Do you... think we bombed *only CEO's and billionaires...? Most of the dead were civilians.
edit: clarification
I don't know who is 'we' here but anyway.
Yes I do in fact. Atomic bomb doesn't care about your social status, it kills anyone in radius. Doesn't matter if you're a worker or a CEO, you're dead. The bombing wasn't even motivated by that at all, it wasn't like "bwahaha let's kill poor people! But let's spare rich and CEOs". It had nothing to do with that. In fact, if there would be a city of billionaires and CEOs, it'd make more sense to bomb them and cause chaos in the companies they own.
As I said I guess you can stretch it that many workers died and that's true but as the other comment said, the context is what's important here
"We" is my country, the US.
I added clarification. The point wasn't the socioeconomic status of the people who died, it's the fact that we used devastating nuclear weapons on 2 cities and the majority of casualties were civilians. That's it.
Damn these military CEOs and billionaires
By no means do I wish to glorify or excuse the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians, but this take on what is basically the final act of WW2 omits a truly MASSIVE amount of context. As in, like, basically all of the context.
Having deep and incisive discussions on these topics is good and important, but the political commentary here isn’t terribly historically coherent. Not to mention: regardless of whether or not Ike himself thought the strikes were justified and necessary post-hoc, pretty much all of the US military leadership at the time were concerned about an absolutely massive clusterfuck quagmire of an occupation effort that would have made occupied Nazi Germany look like traipsing through the Coney Island by comparison. And that’s just a tiny, tiny fraction of the context and knowledge those people had at the time that led them to the decision to use those atomic weapons.
Find out phase.
It's weird to frame this about "working class".
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