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The French government is considering a law that would require web browsers – like Mozilla's Firefox – to block websites chosen by the government.

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[–] Chriszz@lemmy.world 80 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Damn what is happening in France

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago

A couple of idiots are failing to learn from history, heads are preparing to roll. Just a guess. "Cracking down" on the French has never really worked.

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

The government is tired of people rightfully complaining and so is trying to build a cage around their citizenry to make them compliant. The rich of France are wanting it to be more like America so they can literally suck every penny out of the citizenry

[–] EricHill78@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

What happened to parental responsibility?

[–] Takapapatapaka@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

Ok, if you want some info here is a little summary :

  • Banning people condamned for bullying/hate speech from every social media they used for it
  • Blocking websites (mostly porn) without judge's approval, both physically and by forcing navigators/DNS to block it
  • More ID checking to "protect minor"

And if you want details :

The current proposition of law is a melting pot of many Internet security subjects :

  • preventing children to access porn
  • punishing websites that host pedo porn harder
  • punishing deepfake and ai generated montage (and montages in general)
  • preventing hate speech and violent speech in all social media, including chat applications
  • regulating the market of cloud storage providers
  • regulating gambling and real-money video games
  • preventing phishing

They have different actions at their disposal :

  • Fines for website admins who do not comply
  • Forcing websites to check people's identity to prevent minor accessing harming content
  • Forcing websites to ban some accounts suspected of illegal activity
  • Forcing websites to try and block a suspected person (not the user) from using/creating any accounts on their website (for max. 6 months to 1 year)
  • Forcing navigators, DNS providers and Internet compagnies to block any access to a specific domain for max 3 months, if this domain does not comply in (short) time to the administration instructions
  • Forcing websites to mention the name and adress of any person or company that host their content
  • Forcing apps markets to remove an app that does not comply to the administration instructions
  • It would be mandatory for vpn ads to always display a message that says something like "Pirating contents harms artistic creation" (does not have a lot to do with the rest, but it find it interesting anyway)
  • It would be mandatory for any content sharing website to stock datas enabling the identification of anyone who participated in the content creation
  • Easier police raid in places where content is hosted (no judge approval needed, they just get notified of the raid)

Now, i did not hear from this subject a lot, mostly for the pornography part since we probably soon will have to show ID cards to watch porn. I remember that everytime there are more or less violent protests, government says it originates from social media and that they have to control social media to prevent violences. Most politicians i heard on this seem to not fully understand what is at stake, which is kinda usual.

[–] lando55@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm trying to reframe this in a way that will help me and others better understand; are the measures being proposed in this bill analogous to forcing auto manufacturers to build a car that won't let you drive down certain streets?

[–] ElPussyKangaroo@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

What fresh new hell is this?

[–] TheMadnessKing@lemdro.id 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

IMO this even bigger BS that govts are pulling. They are attacking the entire stack: DNS, ISP & now f* browsers.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And it's not just France. The US has some bills that are full of fuckery.

I would not be surprised to learn other countries are at this same tomfoolery.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

The US is doing WHAT?!?!

[–] gabriele97@lemmy.g97.top 10 points 2 years ago

Signed. It makes absolutely no sense

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago
[–] Jumper775@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Does Mozilla really think their petitions do anything?

[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago

Maybe it doesn't do anything, but not the reason to not do something.

[–] 7777AKA@lemm.ee -4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is Brave affected by this?

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If brave is a browser, then yes.

[–] 7777AKA@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago