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[MISLEADING TITLE] Trump Agrees to a Fox News Debate With Harris on Sept. 4 (www.nytimes.com)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by baltakatei@sopuli.xyz to c/nyt_gift_articles@sopuli.xyz

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Dated: 2024-08-03. Added: 2024-08-03. Edit: Gift link added. Edit (2024-08-04): The New York Times altered the title from “Trump Agrees to a Fox News Debate With Harris on Sept. 4” to “Trump Proposes a Fox News Debate With Harris on Sept. 4” to “Trump Cancels a Debate With Harris on ABC News and Pitches One With Fox News Instead”, presumably because the original misleadingly implied agreement with and consent from Kamala Harris for the change in venue (ABC News to Fox News).

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[–] misterundercoat@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago (1 children)

a proposal that has not yet been accepted by the Harris campaign.

Not confirmed by the Harris campaign or Fox News at this point. Why are we reporting Trump's garbage social media spew as factual?

[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You mean the propaganda network who just couple of days ago said “if you are a man who vote for women, you have transitioned into women? IT’S SCIENCE”

WOW, what a great venue for “debate”!

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It fucking sucks that the Democrats keep bending over backwards for this shitbag. Why does he get to pick the venue?

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 81 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

He doesn’t. Harris campaign has not responded. This is just Trump’s wishful thinking.

Edit: Headline misleads with the phrase "agrees to." That suggests that there has been an "agreement" between the two parties. There has not. This is Trump's "proposal."

Trump Proposes a Fox News Debate ...

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

NYT misleading with headline phrasing????

Nooooooooooo.

[+] downpunxx@fedia.io 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

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[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not so sure. You're right that nobody "debates" Trump, but you do get to get onstage and launch attacks at him if you're smooth and know what you're doing.

Fox being the venue is a little meh though, I agree the questions will probably have a strong slant.

[–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The questions would have a slant like a sheer fucking cliff. The audience would be hand picked by MAGA, Inc. There would be absolutely no gain to a "debate" on fox "news".

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Usually things like audience representation and format are negotiated by the two campaigns before the debate is fully agreed to.

I think it's a rare chance to reach the Fox audience with things they don't often encounter due to their media bubbles.

[–] Tiltinyall@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

I mean Fox, if anything, will be predictable in their approch. This isn't unwinnable.

[–] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Man being assassinated drives knife into own stomach"

I bet he can't make himself look good even on home turf at this point.

[–] NocturnalEngineer@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For a cable network, which by their own admission is an "entertainment" show and no "reasonable viewer" would take them seriously...

Why are they even allowed to host political debates?

[–] Zipitydew@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same for CNN now too. John Malone is a Trump fan boy.

[–] Leeks@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The current link is not a gift link.

[–] baltakatei@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago

Oops! Thanks for letting me know. It should be fixed now. >.<

[–] bowroat 5 points 1 year ago

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/03/us/trump-harris-debate-fox-news.html?unlocked_article_code=1.AE4.kCHB.rlXaLBaLf9Ai&smid=url-share

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The DNC desire for “debate” will never be anything but incredible to me. Why? Why, DNC?

“Swing voters”? “Outlining of policies”? “Reasoned discussion”?

Trump has murdered all of these things. In front of your faces. Many times!

Just . . . Don’t.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They still think facts and reason matter more to people than gut feelings and peer pressure.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

They don't understand the modern GQP is very literally a cult, with the attendant cult mindset. "Debate" is just performative vitriol in their eyes.