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TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hate that episode so much. Apart from the "planet of the black people" episode, it's the worst one of the first season. Just totally un-Star Trek.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They said “Make Wesley guilty of a crime and have the Enterprise crew figure out how to clear his name.” And wrote the script backwards from there.

A plot that would make more sense on The Brady Bunch.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

“Shut up, Marcia!”

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TNG had some amazing episodes and some terrible ones, but this one is near the very bottom. As someone else said, it felt like the writing process was a "let's make Wesley guilty and figure out how they get him out of it" and they worked backwards from there.

The law on the planet is stupid and it feels like they are violating the prime directive just by being there because the civilization can't be warp-capable. They don't know they're being ruled by a computer in orbit because they think it's a god. The lady Picard terrifies by beaming onto the satellite made that clear.

So basically even their presence on the planet is pretty inexcusable

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Prime Directive is not just a set of rules. It is a philosophy, and a very correct one. History has proved again and again that non interference should be inversely proportional to how hot the native species is.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I really cannot come up with an ethical reason for them to be on that planet openly as Starfleet officers.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Can we take a moment and appreciate that actor putting up with that brutal sunburn?

[–] Skunk@jlai.lu 21 points 1 year ago

Ouch right. I never noticed during the episode. Poor dude.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Ugh, yeah. They were probably out there filming for hours.

[–] puchaczyk@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

First time seeing on TV men wearing slutier clothes than women

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Truly a star trek moment.

Speaking of, I just rewatched that TNG episode where they visit the matriarchal society where all the women are domineering and the men are more passive. It's hard not to laugh when Riker shows off his culturally appropriate one-nipple-tastefully-out outfit.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The earring really sells it too.

Marina is clearly enjoying it as well. The episode is "angel one" if anyone wants to join her.

[–] metallic_substance@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

"make it so" would have been a much better punchline for the 3rd panel 😂

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"but, I..."

"Shut up, Wesley!"

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

A real captain of properly caffeinated disposition (Janeway) would not tolerate such ensign bullshit, 10/10 would take the chance and leave him there. Perhaps aid the prosecutors/police to make sure.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you sure you don't want to execute ensign Kim also?

Mam, nobody of that name has stepped foot on this planet

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

The fucker was literally back on Earth & still managed to nag his way back.

Also didn't they actually want to fire him from the show? Oh, that was prob about Paris.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

At that "being angry is punishable with death" planet, she didn't go that way.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

She had no qualms aiding the termination of crewmembers.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only the ones that deserved it.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Say what you want, that strange flowery leopard pattern was a crime

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I don't believe there exist arguments against that being a crime, in any era.

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] teft@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m not a fan of Wes because i always thought he whined a lot but let me get some Wil Wheaton action any day of the week.

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] teft@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He did get to kiss Ashley Judd so they didn’t do him too dirty.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They dated outside the show as well.

Makes sense, as they had great chemistry on screen together.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Agreed. I enjoy him in other things. Even as a kid. He was good in Stand By Me and I loved him in Eureka when he was older.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't actually know. I found it on Tenor.com a long time ago

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well now I'm going to spend half the day trying to figure it out.

Edit: Or 5 seconds. It was in The Big Bang Theory.

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Haha. I think we found out from the same link at the same time.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 year ago

Plot twist he hasn't even been down to the surface

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Death by Snu Snu?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

By the way, Wil Wheaton was 15 when that episode was on. That "there are some games I'm not ready to play yet" line was bullshit. He would be down to pound town so fast he never would have crashed into the greenhouse while catching a ball.

Those people fucked enough for 10 Risas.