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(Posting to lemmy.world seems to be disabled so I'm posting this here instead.)

This inconsistency has been bothering me, so I went poking around in their support community, and the best I could find was a statement saying they had reached out to the admins of both. Apparently they expected @ruud@lemmy.world to reply to something that didn't seem like a question as indicated by his response in Beehaw Support. As such, they claim to have no roadmap to eventually refederate with lemmy.world.

I added a reply from another instance, but I'm guessing I won't receive a reponse so if anyone knows, I would like to better understand the issue. It's quite annoying feeling like I'm missing out, especially when I'm seeing inflammatory overly generalized statements from kbin.social users about how lemmy.world deserved to be defederated over in this post on lemmy.ml.

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[–] cura@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I know that many people don't like their defederation decision but I think they did it in good faith. And they did state they want to refederate with the two instances once the mod tools are in place.

For kbin, they did mention the reasoning behind.

To be clear there are problematic users on nearly every instance. I’ve had to moderate quite a few kbin users, but it’s not standing out from the pack as a particularly problematic place as of this moment.

As for lemmy.ml, I have a stupid theory that since the signup is closed, those spammers cannot get accounts over there.

[–] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Unpopular opinion but I don't think refederation with beehaw.org should be on the table. They loved the concept of federation when they needed users, and then once they've grown enough they said okay now we're gonna be a closed island and the other peasants need to rise to our standards before we refederate with them. The moderation excuse is obviously not sincere as users could have easily volunteered to moderate.

No matter how fancy their writing is (and there was indeed lots of it, why try too hard to justify the decision?), I think the trust has been broken. Why would I comment on their threads ever again and risk having my content "locked" in their instance if they go on another ego trip and defederate again?

[–] TheVampireSaga@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I don't really like beehaw due to a recent experience with them misleading people extremely severely that nobody but me seemed to really acknowledge. but if anything I stick to World.

[–] taigaman@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I say leave them to themselves. I tried applying for an account there, and was rejected. I guess they must not be hurting for new members. You have to wonder if they'll run out of people as other communities/magazines continue to grow without them. They might find their own members leaving in favor of those larger communities.

[–] suspecm@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah it's really not a good look when you have to anwser 3 questions and if you don't anwser the "right" way you get rejected. After a week of waiting.

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I also received my rejection letter in the electronic mail today, and I'm happy to not be a member of such an uptight community.

[–] MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What were the questions if I may ask?

[–] suspecm@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It was like a bad interview. Why do you wanna join, what will you contribe and there was a third one I forgot.

[–] MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Hmm. I'm glad I randomly came across a link for lemmy.world lol