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AFTER EIGHT YEARS of Republican fealty to Donald J. Trump, few would argue that the party is still defined by Ronald Reagan’s famous three-legged stool of the religious right, fiscal conservatives and neoconservative hawks.

But if the Republican Party is no longer in Reagan’s image, it’s not necessarily a populist-conservative MAGA monolith, either.

The last New York Times/Siena College poll found that only 37 percent of Republicans count as part of Mr. Trump’s loyal base.

And while majorities of Republicans side with Mr. Trump on almost every issue, those majorities are often quite slim: Around 40 percent of Republican-leaning voters support aid to Ukraine, support comprehensive immigration reform or say abortion should be mostly or always legal.

ut if the Republican Party isn’t quite a MAGA monolith, what is it? To better understand the party today, we split Republican and Republican-leaning voters into groups, based on the results of our Times/Siena poll. The groups were defined by how Republican-leaning voters felt on the issues — not how they felt about Mr. Trump.

The results depict a Republican coalition that consists of six groups:

The Moderate Establishment (14%). Highly educated, affluent, socially moderate or even liberal and often outright Never Trump.

The Traditional Conservatives (26%). Old-fashioned economic and social conservatives who oppose abortion and prefer corporate tax cuts to new tariffs. They don’t love Mr. Trump, but they do support him.

The Right Wing (26%). They watch Fox News and Newsmax. They’re “very conservative.” They’re disproportionately evangelical. They believe America is on the brink of catastrophe. And they love Mr. Trump more than any other group.

The Blue Collar Populists (12%). They’re mostly Northern, socially moderate, economic populists who hold deeply conservative views on race and immigration. Not only do they back Mr. Trump, but he himself probably counted as one a decade ago.

The Libertarian Conservatives (14%). These disproportionately Western and Midwestern conservatives value freedom and small government. They’re relatively socially moderate and isolationist. Other than the establishment, it’s Mr. Trump’s worst group.

The Newcomers (8%). They don’t look like Republicans. They’re young, diverse and moderate. But these disaffected voters like Democrats and the “woke” left even less.

Mr. Trump’s dominance of the Republican Party is founded on an alliance between the Right Wing and Blue Collar Populists, two groups that combine to represent nearly 40 percent of Republicans — and about two-thirds of Mr. Trump’s MAGA base of seemingly unshakable support.

The Blue Collar Populists and the Right Wing don’t always agree. In particular, they split on the issues of the religious right, like same-sex marriage and abortion. But these two groups are big Trump supporters. They mostly agree with him on his defining issues and they share his deeply pessimistic, even cataclysmic view of the direction of the country, including fear of the declining white share of the population.

The alliance between Blue Collar Populists and the Right Wing has left Mr. Trump’s potential opposition in disarray. Before Trump, the party’s mainstream prevailed against Right Wing candidates by uniting Traditional Conservatives and the moderate factions — both Establishment and Blue Collar. That blueprint for victory appears to be closed, at least for now.

Without a natural factional base, Ron DeSantis has struggled to maintain a steady foothold in the race. In fact, Mr. Trump leads Mr. DeSantis among every group of Republican voters identified in the analysis. The rest of the party, beyond Mr. Trump’s base, may not always back Trump policies, but it’s not necessarily anti-Trump. And the closest thing to an anti-Trump group in the party — the Moderate Establishment — has become alienated from the rest of the party.

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[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago

Only two types of Republican. The ones who know they are racist as fuck and ruining the country by tricking idiots into votigin against their interests, and the idiots who got tricked jnto voting against their own interest.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They mostly agree with him on his defining issues and they share his deeply pessimistic, even cataclysmic view of the direction of the country, including fear of the declining white share of the population.

And there it is. What unites them. Racism.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Also “deeply conservative views on race” under the blue collar voter.

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Missing in this list: the doctrinaire white supremacists, the ones who would have voted (or did vote) for George Wallace in '68. Once part of the Democratic Party machine, the white supremacists left it when the Democrats took up civil rights.

[–] ATQ@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago

After the last 8 years, there’s not really any reason to sub-divide out different categories of traitors. They all saw his shit. If still they support him, they’re to blame.

[–] shitescalates@midwest.social 5 points 2 years ago

I'm surprised they peg libertarians so low. I know a lot of people that vote GOP just for "lower taxes". Where do they fit in?

[–] gastationsushi@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

NYT trash. These 6 types are just masks Republicans put on to pretend they stand for sensible values when their actions prove otherwise.

For the ones that actually care about politics, their MO is some combination of own the libs and or increasing their party's power by any means. Academics can break them down by which ones will and won't vote for Trump in the primary, but that distinction is moot when +95% of them would vote for Trump over Jesus running as a Democrat.

Just call them a cult.

[–] WidowsFavoriteSon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well, the NYT has data. You have whatever it is that you pulled out of your ass.

[–] gastationsushi@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

You believe pollster data proves it's not a cult, like cult members would answer questions honestly? lulz

[–] Vlhacs@reddthat.com 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So only about half of Republicans are actually socially conservative, other half is moderate. Which makes me wonder why the GOP is pushing so hard on these culture wars when it's a losing battle and all it does is divide our country even more and hurt minorities.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Because the socially conservative faction is militant and even with their fervant support the GOP only gets enough votes to win elections when they resort to gerrymandering and voter suppression. Anyone who doesn't at least pay lip service to the christofascist talking points during primaries will get destroyed by one of the candidates that's actually willing to. The only GOP members who can afford to not bow down to their extremist element are those who are never planning to run for any public office again.

The GOP is very much the polar opposite of the DNC. While the GOP is run by the most extreme members of their party the DNC on the other hand is run by the most moderate members of the party. They have in fact been incredibly successful at blocking any candidate that's even moderately progress. It's why the US effectively has a slightly right of center party and an extreme right party. The DNC is only left in that they're further left than the GOP which is just about as far right as you can possibly be. In all other respects the DNC is centrist with slight right leanings.

[–] LostMyRedditLogin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Culture wars for both sides of the aisle don't add to the government budget. You can yell and scream for a cause without any consequence. No one other than the other side gets angry. It's a sideshow while the real legislation is barely talked about, pro-corporate legislation for their donors.

[–] RecursiveParadox@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sure.

Except one side isn't actively trying to kill the other and violently overthrow the government. Stop with the whataboutism. We know it's bad, but let's deal with the side with plainly murderous intent first.

[–] LostMyRedditLogin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

That's working great so far.

Calling out terrible Democrats and voting in real left wing Democrats is a necessary step at the same time as fighting Republicans. Doing nothing just makes a better case for the Republicans to gain neutral voters as we have seen in many other countries where the center left is losing to fascists.