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I started up my own instance and now I have realized that there's no reason anyone would join mine instead of any other instance.

That's no good. What neat stuff would the Fediverse like to see in a Lemmy instance?

  • Follow RSS feeds in your Lemmy feed? I have that already, in a way, but it would be nice to be able to do it for any feed automatically without it being clunky.
  • Follow Mastodon users? Or tags?
  • Embedded video? That seems costly.
  • Hackability? The ability to run your own customized front end? Or good scripting features in the browser console?
  • A better looking UI? This one is functional but it's not pretty.
  • Better moderation? I have heard the Lemmy tools aren't that good.
  • Something else?
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[–] electricprism@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Management that has multiple conflicting ideology and walks of life but respect each other and has a professionalism and tolerance for people they disagree with and invite them to discuss instead of ruling with a iron fist like feudal fief lords.

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The RSS feeds thing feels like a good one.

Additionally, some feature where you can start a community but define it simply as a combination of RSS feeds … essentially a feed aggregator. But one that others can share and subscribe to.

I think a bot could handle most of that.

Hackable front end is interesting. You can already run multiple alternative front ends. Lemmy world offer 5 I think. Then, they just need to be scriptable if that’s what you want.

Restyling the default one seems to be common though

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The pondercat rss bot can already do that. You can create a community that gets posts from any number of RSS feeds.

Well, you can't, but I can. I don't want to make it available for anyone to use yet, because I don't want an explosion of RSS spam, but if you want to connect some RSS feeds to a community and it's not going to become obnoxious, I can do that for you.

Hackable front ends, I think, could be a huge deal. I don't know how easy that is, but if it's possible for someone to run a modified version of the frontend just for them out of a subdomain, without it being a security nightmare, that would solve a lot of these issues of wanting an extra button on the report page, but having to have it go from you to the site admin to Nutomic back to a code update to a PR and back down the chain and so on, before it can get done.

With some web apps, that's easy, and Lemmy's frontend and backend are already nicely separated. I don't know if there have to be privileged things running in the frontend, though. I looked at it just now but I couldn't completely sort out how realistic it is. That might mean it's not very realistic.

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The RSS not seems cool! Is that open source some where?

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is not, partly because it is still rough and just written, and partly because I'm scared people will start blasting RSS spam everywhere and it will be my fault.

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

partly because I’m scared people will start blasting RSS spam everywhere and it will be my fault.

That is fair. Might be worthwhile talking to instance admins and core devs about how best to make use of it? Putting it behind some admin approval or administration might be the best way.

There was an instance a while back that was dedicated to something similar. Their system was to define the feeds themselves without any real user input, and it never really took off.

Maybe a dedicated instance that provides more user control but is also set up to control and limit things could go a long way? One basic control might be limiting usage to user accounts older than a certain threshold. lemm dot ee does this for image uploads (4 weeks minimum age).

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 2 points 1 year ago

That is fair. Might be worthwhile talking to instance admins and core devs about how best to make use of it? Putting it behind some admin approval or administration might be the best way.

That's a good idea. And then, if it turns into a mess of botspam, it's not my fault.

[–] baatliwala@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Honestly at this point there's a fairly large number of instances so yours would need a selling point to even begin. And that's before taking things like owner behaviour and strictness into consideration because the instance theme and tools will always be the first impression.

"Generic catch all instances" are common. You can only build up a user base if existing people are willing to ditch their own. What are yours doing that the current ones do not?

  • Do you have a focus on a particular topic? I would consider posting a beautiful photo that I took on an instance dedicated to photography rather than the catch all one.
  • Is your UI unique/pretty? Which leads me to the next point...
  • Do you offer certain tools available/unique to your instance? 1) If yes, why can't they be integrated with base lemmy? It's open source after all. 2) If no for whatever reason (Lemmy devs slow to respond, low on their priority, will not accept, I don't agree with their behaviour etc) is there a reason it cannot be included on other existing instances? Why is it exclusive to yours?

And then I would start looking at the details like what would uptime be, how much are you yourself making an effort to contribute and expand, etc

[–] rglullis@communick.news 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)
  • Proof of Humanity. There is some work about using Zero Knowledge Proofs as a way to be able to indicate that the owner of a key can also prove ownership of another set of credentials without having to reveal these credentials to third parties. This would allow us to really get rid of bots and sockpuppets.
  • The ability for users to bring their own cryptographic keys and actor id. This way even if a server goes down people could port their whole account over to a different server.
  • Multi-protocol federation.
  • Get rid of downvotes/upvotes and replace it with multi-dimensional scoring/ranking system.
  • User-defined sorting/ranking. I do not want to completely block people, but I do wish to have a system that could boost/de-emphasize posts by certain people on certain topics, and completely ignore them in others.
  • Cooperative media storage and distribution that could leverage the storage from clients as well as servers, something based on bittorrent.
  • Custom widgets that can be attached to a post/community. For example, I'd like to have a play-by-play tracker for basketball/football games.
  • RDF/Semantic Web descriptors. If people are talking about a TV show, or making a list of PC components that they want to review or anything that can be part of a knowledge graph should be linkable and browsable by a specialized browser.
  • Collaborative lists/articles/posts. With the item above, it would be trivial to create wikipedia-style posts where a community can build their "common knowledge" and would make it easier for newcomers to get general recommendations and/or a sense of the community values.
[–] halm@leminal.space 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Get rid of downvotes/upvotes

This. I haven't found a way to disable up/downvotes, even just their visibility in the UI. I understand the value of users rating post and comments, however I think the visible metrics turn Reddit and Lemmy alike into competitions for karma points rather than discussion.

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

Reddthat.com disable downvotes, that's something

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[–] wiki_me@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Having some sort of democratic non profit behind it like codeberg which seem to be doing really well (or like a cooperative bank), anyone can be a member as long as he pays fees that help projects for the instance (which could include paying bounties or freelancers for lemmy feature development). You would have a election where you vote for a board of directors or even just one "instance leader" or something like that and he or they decide what to fund or what mods to appoint or impeach. You could copy codeberg bylaws and it might actually work.

You could argue just letting basically average people elect management would lead to incompetent management (plato made the same arguments, your in good company), but this model has it advantages and seems to work well . The American Association for the Advancement of Science uses this model and created one of the most well regarded science journal in the world (science)

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

If there's a person (or bot) that claims to be unbiased but spams every political post with a biased assertion of the OP's partiality/impartiality with a huge post that is low effort copy+paste/script-generated, the correct response is to ban that person (or bot).

This is nothing new to online communities, but this instance seems to be struggling with this.

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