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[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 274 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is all anyone needs to know to understand what we’re up against.

There will be no democracy if he wins.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 107 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Biden said it explicitly on his last speech. Of course he also said this was a fight for democracy in 2020. He was right then too, but it never came true so people forgot.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 62 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's frustrating that if you fight against a thing and beat it, folks think there was no need to fight it in the first place. No. We routed evil temporarily. Great victory; still needs to be defeated again every time it rears its head.

[–] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been using the Death Star as an analogy for my nerd friends. Yes, we won a big battle, but the Empire isn't dead. Gotta keep fighting.

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[–] TuxCat@midwest.social 11 points 1 year ago

There's actually a term for that phenomenon: the Preparedness Paradox.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It almost did on January 6.

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[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There will be no democracy if he wins.

Given the outright rigging by voter registration culling, limited polling places, voter intimidation, gerrymandering and electoral nullification/tampering, winning so big that they can't overcome the results is critical.

[–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

Get ready for swing state violence. With polling places severely reduced in swing states in left leaning areas, we will see more rhetoric about “2A people can take care of that”.

What will happen is that polling place will be closed, and no one will be allowed to vote. Since the books won’t be changed to another location, all those people will have their rights taken away. SCOTUS will say in a 6-3 decision “can only vote on this date”, and by doing so will also strip away voting by mail.

[–] soul@lemmy.world 126 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He hasn't been afraid to say the quiet part out loud for a while now. This isn't news, it's more like a final echo off of a once-distant wall that's just about within reach.

If enough people don't get off their ass in November and vote to put Harris, the only other ACTUALLY REALISTIC choice, into office, then the final dominoes will fall.

I'm looking at all of you casual voters who don't go every time. I'm looking at you independent voters. I'm looking at you remaining "undecided" wafflers. I'm looking at you unregistered "it's too hard “ and "I'm too busy" people.

If Trump gets into office again, that's on all of you, and you're gonna be part of the problem if you aren't part of the solution. NOBODY else is gonna do it for you. NONE of the other names that might appear on a ballot in your state will have a snowball's chance in hell. If you don't like Harris, that's fine, you don't have to like her, but choosing not to vote for Harris is giving your vote to Trump.

So get off your lazy ass for a few minutes to help save the world for what looks like it might be more than the next 4 years; it could be for a lot longer. And while you're at it, if you keep voting Republicans into Congress, State, and local governments, (where most of the power ACTUALLY is), then they will keep working us all toward this kind of position. Stop putting them in power. Period.

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[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 97 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Man isn't even pretending to hide it anymore.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 76 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Title from every media company out there should say "trump wants to end democracy and become it's dictator"

[–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

“Yeah, but Harris is a woman and also…yah know…” - Libertarians and swing voters.

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[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Have to = be allowed to

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Dlayknee@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I really want to give him the entirely unwarranted benefit of the doubt that he's saying it won't matter in 4 years bc he won't be running (making the assumption he'll win this time and reach his term limit) but having watched the video I dunno, that "we'll have it fixed by then" sounds reeeeaaally ominous.

[–] Nelots@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It looks like the real benefit of the doubt is that he's hopefully talking about laws on voter ID being fixed. Still, what the hell is a presidential candidate doing telling people they don't need to vote anymore? Even with the benefit of the doubt, this shit is ominous.

Edit: to be clear, I don't give him the benefit of the doubt. All I'm saying is if somebody wants to, this is the best they're able to do. It's also important to be aware of the context of the quote, even if you believe he means it in the worst way.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When did giving trump the benefit of the doubt ever work?

It wasn't even a dog whistle, it was a fog horn. There's not much room for interpretion.

Mr dictator on day one obviously wants to stay a dictator.

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[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

This man is unbelievable. And I mean that quite literally. Don't believe him, believe the subtext. He wants to end Democracy.

[–] unconsciousvoidling@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This needs to be front page news and of course it isn’t.

[–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 year ago

CNN is trying to figure out what to do with their 350,000 LLM made articles about Biden being too old.

They keep trying to make stories about Harris, but since the LLM’s are trained on Reddit all it is doing is spewing out hardcore racism.

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trump saying he has the Election Fixed is PROOF that DEMOCRATS engaged in Election Fraud!

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

His faith in his future is about to be dashed to smithereens

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

If it is, then we fight. Same as last time around.

[–] misterundercoat@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So think of the SpongeBob meme where he keeps revealing more dirty diapers. We are currently at the panel where he points out the window to the mountain of diapers.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago

Not doing anything atm, just talking

Once elected he can make it legal

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Lucian Truscott thinks it is all about not having elections any longer once he gets in. I'm not so sure. I think it means more that he will get the "Christian" agenda put in place so his MAGA crowd no longer has to fight to get their ideas ensconced into law. But his entire approach has been that he will contest the election if he doesn't win. And he certainly didn't want to abide by the voters actions last election. He wants to rule for life. And then he wants his sons to take over.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

His dumb fuckin kids couldn't take over an unfinished donut.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A Christian agenda, not the Christian agenda. The thing that most people don't get is that in the USA alone there are at least 200 different sects of Christianity and they have some very different ideas and they feel very strongly about those difference. Any voter who thinks Trump is going to enshrine their particular flavor of Christianity as law is a fool twice over. Even if he did manage to enshrine any particular sects rules into law, the chances of it being that particular voter's flavor of Christianity is incredibly small.

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[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

he will contest the election if he doesn’t win

Republicans say it will be "bloodless" if they get their way. Take that as a warning.

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

Maybe he plans to have all the christian’s thrown into internment camps so they would not get to vote anymore.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

How does he know that everything deranged people want is the same as what Christians in the U.S. want? Christians and deranged republicans don’t form a circle Venn diagram

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Evangelicals do.

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